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2fm - New schedule coming

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    Girls her own age? She turns 39 later this year and is old enough to be the mammy of some of 2FM's listeners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    I did say, and younger. And whoever voted for her in DWTS.

    I did hear from someone before that worked in RTE, that the phone lines (text I presumed) lit up when she was on different shows. Its a metric they will use to measure audience interests and whether its pos or neg engagement, its still engagement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Exactly. Just timing. Laura Fox started and then left for her holidays.

    I like it. If its one step closer to respecting contractors. And by contractors, I also mean producer's, editors, etc. Diverging again here.

    Anyone else bothering to tune in? Hurling on the ditch?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭RINO87


    I listened to drive today anyway. Fcuk me it was piss poor.

    Actually no, maybe it wasn't. Production etc was fine. It was just incredibly boring. Lotties accent for a few hours is a thing to behold...... I'll never subject myself to that show again. Friday drivetime is supposed to be fun FFS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭radiotrickster


    I listened for about half an hour during the week and they barely spoke to each other. Lottie introduced a song, the song played, David introduced a song, the song played.

    It turned out to be a requests hour but there was one song they must have cut 90 seconds in because it was time for the 5:30 headlines. I’d hate to request a song, actually get it played and then have it cut short to hear the news.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    FIgures? as in, the numbers of people who listen? Nope. Do you?

    It charts well when the TV show is on, but it's topical. She definitely has a DWTS following and that's undisputed. She did win it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I wouldn't have asked if I did. I don't but I am always surprise when people say something is doing well, the audience is good. You say it charts well, on which platform?

    TV3 had a habit of saying audience figures were good, or that they had even doubled, double from what?


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    TV3 has not existed since 2018; we have Virgin Media Television now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I was actually talking about TV3 back then but and here's something for the books

    VMTV ONE - full name TV3 Television Network Ltd

    VMTV TWO - full name Channel 6 Broadcasting Ltd

    VMTV THREE - full name UTV Ireland Ltd

    I think FOUR and More come under ONE!


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Are you just being a bit pedantic? It's on Apple Charts and in Ireland, its in the top 2/3 when the show is on. I get that you are deeply mistrusting of Rte or official figures. But let's not go around the houses. This is about the new radio schedule.

    A poster had questioned her popularity. And from various metrics, she's popular in certain circles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Thanks. Also as you say it could just be DWTS. I imagine the 2 hosts are both replaceable, maybe even Lottie gets that job!


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,259 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Just to clarify, Laura isn't on holiday, she's filming Ireland's Fittest Family.



  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    There was silence on 2fm this morning for about a minute after I switched on, then it came in halfway through a song. I thought a special recording was meant to kick in automatically if there is that much dead air.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,259 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Mistakes happen. One time Carl Mullan was on early weekend breakfast and there was about two minutes of dead air at the start, well we say dead air what had actually happened was he put the wrong studio live. It was just before Dan Healy took over so whoever was head at the time got woken up at home by an automatic Dead Air alarm. When he heard what had happened he just laughed it off. I reckon it was out of relief, because Carl would have been on his own in there at that time and dead air might mean a medical emergency with the presenter and nobody to call an ambulance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭RINO87


    Didnt know Carl was there that long. When did he start on weekend breakfast?



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    Back in the 70s there was a fault and RTE 1 (tv) failed to air for a few hours on January 1st. The TV critic Kevin marron wrote that he thought it was their new year's resolution but sadly it wasn't.



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    on friday after 5 they have a version of the out the gap lingering on in that they play dance/EDM stuff to jig us up for the weekend. The only thing is that unlike when the 2 johnnies did it, this is very much "mum and dad" sort of stuff, quite tame. also i did notice as someone posted earlier this one/one way of presenting in that they dont actually seem to be talking to each other at all.

    Sadly, David has certainly taken the "two messers" thing to heart. Shouting and screeching (I cant think of any other word) at 90 decibels is just unlistenable. Actually the "two messers" idea is something like a granny would think up for "young peoples radio" and harks back to 2fm's AnCo Radio heritage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Newbie12345The


    I get the vibe Lottie isnt popular in the station with the other on air talent



  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    I tuned in to Lottie and Dave briefly and also picked up on the lack of real communication between them. Heard Sam and Dani on r1 this morning and it seems to flow more naturally with them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,191 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Lottie is fuming, and if Daddy was still around he'd give RTE an ear full !!



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    Spotted the newspaper this morning, at a glance it seems to be all about "disrespecting gerrys name" more than the merits or demerits of lottie as a presenter. If that's coming from "sources" 😉 than it reveals a lot.

    It's brutal even by 2fm standards they started only 3 weeks ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,489 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I always switch stations when I hear her, few reasons, the posh southside accent, the fact she only got the job because of her dad, and she acts like a teenager the way she goes on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    First off she is nearly 40, so hardly a "girl"

    My other half is her target audience, talk to her and friends and they will tell you she ruined the breakfast show when they shoved her into it and now the afternoons. Well seemingly not anymore

    At least it shows 2Fm have finally had some sense

    In terms of her win of Dancing with the Stars, a number of times from recollection she was in bottom and was saved by the judges. On the final it was in covid and she was pushed from every angle in the media for a least a week. RTE clearly had a plan they wanted her to win it, the other person, can't remember name but she was far superior



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    If she ever stop clawing at the coat tails of Gerry she might get somewhere, it's clear from article it is coming from her "team" and they have to use Gerrys name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭squonk


    I feel sorry for her. She’s not in the new gig a month. It takes time to bed in and she hasn’t even had that. I haven’t listened but it does strike me that she’s the wronged party here.

    You can look at it two ways. She might be crap in the slot and completely unsuited to the show but it would have been obvious beforehand that it wasn’t the place for her and she’s a known quantity in RTE as well so somebody selecting and assigning the on-air talent screwed up here.

    On the other hand she was hoodwinked. They didn’t have a plan B after the exodus, threw Lottie into the slot, publicised the hell out of it to distract from the shít show unfolding and hedged they’re bets because they knew she wasn’t a fit but let her play out til they could regroup and find somebody else. That’s very shoddy practice and she should have been given time to bed in.

    It does cast a light on Lottie though. Most people, if they weee dicked around like this by an organisation would likely start making exit plans. If Lottie stays now it’ll just get worse because it’s blatantly obvious now that RTE can treat her like absolute shít and she’ll stick around. I feel sorry for the woman. She likely can’t get employed anywhere else and her employer seem to be crapping all over her. That’s a horrible position to be in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    i agree with you there, in fact this whole thing shows that Dan Healy is way out of his depth. Now i have never liked the way he treats presenters in the way he fires them without notice to them or indeed their audience.

    It treats the presenters badly and suggests he has a "there's loads in the queue behind you" attitude but also suggets that he has no regard for the audience, just stick anyone in there.

    This is a bizzare situation - it seems that Lottie was intended to be a fill in untill yet another SM person with no radio experiance was to be given a national radio gig - and a prime one at that! The problem is that DH never seems to have told Lottie this. He has lost command of the ship - if the "bullshit! bullshit! bullshit!" OTR reply of him about Jen Z leaving didnt sink him then this should.

    And, no, bad as lottie may be, the answer isnt a tik tok personality. The answer is a new station manager.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Newbie12345The


    you’d think they’d learn after hiring an unfunny social media comedian in Doireann - wtf is a Tik tok lip sync



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Newbie12345The


    you know she doesn’t have any self respect but why would she give up a over 50grand a year ( being conservative on that figure) contract



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Haven’t listened to the show but anytime I’ve heard either of them presenting shows they’re bad. Replacing with a social media person is going to be just as bad. I wonder who’ll be pushing the buttons for her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    It's hard to tell if it will be as bad, Lottie is not a DJ, she never was. Hence why they have dropped her from one show to another and then back into minimal slots for years

    This TikTok person could be 100 times better but I doubt she will be any worse



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Oh I know, plus it well over 50k

    She keeps saying she doesn't want to use her fathers name or linked with her father, yet constantly links herseld with her father



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    I know absolutely nothing about this TokTok person either but perhaps she will be better. Every presenter has to start somewhere and with a bit of practice (and training?) she might be perfectly fine. Lottie, unfortunately, is a known quantity. I wonder why they gave her this radio slot in the first place, and why they've yanked her from it so quickly. It is humiliating and even though I don't rate her as a presenter, I feel for her today. Was she so bad that they felt she couldn't be left on the air? Were they negotiating with replacements behind the scenes all the time? Did they lead her to believe it was going to be a longer gig? Perhaps she saw this as her big break - finally!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    RTE/2FM had to do something with Lottie after years been in the role and going nowhere. She would be on decent wages and was just reading a segment which really an intern or a very young DJ should get when trying to get into the business. If it was any other station she would have been given a slot years ago and then dumped when it failed

    This was her last chance I guess and it was a disaster, I think RTE/2FM might hope she will know just leave without a big payoff but hard to tell with Lottie, she seems happy enough to do the entertainment bit her entire life so she will probably go back into it and just take her wages

    By the way this is multiple times now she has failed, they have shoved her into multiple slots and its been a disaster, so her big break has come a few times and all failed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,654 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I think it’s disgraceful treatment of Lottie.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    She's probably permanent by now, possibly by default after being around the place for so long. Unless they're clever about making her redundant they're stuck with her. From her point of view, why would she leave? A bruised ego is easier to get over than a diminished pay packet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,586 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    She was a contractor last year during her Toyota car advert in the RTÉ car park period, that would have been the time to make the decision not to renew it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    Unless they had no choice? My understanding of employment law is that you can't keep giving people fixed contracts indefinitely. They may have had to regularise her situation, along with other people in RTE (wasn't there a court case?)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,335 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    A lot of assumptions here..a career built pretty much solely around her dad's name supported by constant puff pieces from friendly rag mags when she does the most mundane thing, extremely tiresome.

    She has been well paid for very little over the years I wouldn't feel too sorry for her tbh....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,586 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Yes you can't roll over more than 4 years in fixed contracts, however I believe if you set yourself up as a company providing services to RTÉ like how Joe Duffy and Ryan Tubridy did it can be indefinetely. It would seem to me that she was an employee initially, then switched to be a contractor to take the benefits that gig gives.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    maybe, but is one of the two biggest slots on 2FM the place to find out? God be with the days that newbies be tested out of an evening slot or weekend breakfast - in the days that getting a 2FM slot was the actual pinnacle and you hadn't done years elsewhere beforehand (like Doireann did tbf).

    it just sounds like DH is just screaming "get me someone young and popular!!!" and dropping them into the slots. He must have one hell of a production team in there.

    And all she will end up doing is the usual "whats's your best ice cream/holiday/tv ad" links anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    2FM is in a section full of radio stations across Ireland which are better and more people want to listen to

    2FM is no more the pinnacle and in all honestly it is mostly a graveyard now.

    Sticking a TikTok person on it has more chance of getting listeners than anything else, after all the two jonnies are just "stars" from online podcast re they not?

    When you have the likes of Lottie as part of the staff then hiring outside will be the only option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    It's a fair comment that 2FM is no longer the pinnacle. Certainly, it's not the high point of an influencer's career. It's a great way to up their profile, thanks to the exposure they'll get on RTE. It's not a good recipe in the medium to long term because you can't see any of these people staying around for the long haul.

    2FM could do something radical and hire good young presenters from local radio. Mix up the music selection more, cut out all that "mad for the craic" and be a solid youth station. Young people can listen to all the comedy and chatter and messing they want on their smartphones. Maybe they might like to listen to music with a bit of curation and presenters who aren't trying to be comedians. 2FM is simply reheating what they're getting online anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭squonk


    I think it’s clear enough and unless Lottie herself comes on here and clarifies, then we’re all assuming one way or another. On a purely professional basis I agree with you. She got given the job, they decided to rehash the lineup and pulled in someone with lots of followers.

    I’m looking at it though on a personal level. I have no desire to see someone led on abc dumped without being given anything like a half decent chance. Even the most incompetent person will last more than 3 weeks in a job before they’re finally managed to be cleared out. Lottie gig no chance whatsoever. I don’t care how much you dislike someone, it really should register that she’s been unfairly treated here. Pulled from a prime time slot is humiliating and I can’t see it’s her fault yet. There isn’t even a Llistenership JLR book for the period.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    2FM could, but they won't, they hire the likes of Lottie because of her father. Or Doireann because she is part of the larger RTE family. Then try to paint it up as a new hire

    Actually going for the Two Jonnies and Trapp is a total break from the norm

    I expect the pressure is on in RTE and 2FM could be shut down tomorrow and nobody would give a sh*t, well apart from all the highly paid people in it like Lottie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    loddy doddy free da loddy, loddy doddy free da loddy, the queen of RTÉ



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    She was terrible at her job, what exactly did you want them to do?

    The fact more people could have predicted she was terrible in the first place shows how poor 2FM judgement is putting her into the role in first place



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,654 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I thought she was decent on breakfast republic a few years ago. I don’t listen to anything on 2 fm right now but everyone is entitled to fair treatment. A good few people have been messed around in there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭squonk


    That’s the point though. The 2FM brass knew what Lottie could and couldn’t do. If she was unsuitable for the position she shouldn’t have been offered it in the first place. If Joe is a woeful chef but John, the restaurant manager promotes Joe from the dishwashing to senior chef and most of the food starts coming out either undercooked or burnt to a crisp, who’s at fault? John surely. I think if you promote someone into a position then you need to offer them support to meet the standards required or give them the chance to try and meet the standard before either demoting them or terminating the door.

    Dan Healy has really fúcked up here by promoting Lottie to a position he, you could argue, knew she wasn’t suitable for and then pulls her without due time to find her feet. Lottie’s old man was litigious but he was a trained solicitor. I can’t see Dan Healy having much of a leg to stand on if Lottie decided to air her grievances in a workplace tribunal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Maybe they are trying to move her on, doing the entertainment she was never going to leave. She is on big wages. Put her into a primary role, if she fails then a reason to move her on. If she succeeds then great they have a inhouse hire for a primary role

    She was hired for a role, she is supposed to be a star, she failed and listeners left because she was poor in that role. How would she have any case in a workplace tribunal?



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