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NTA Publishes 2024 Fares Plan Changes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭B2021M




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,902 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The first phase of fare changes arising from the 2024 fares determination will be implemented from 23rd and 24th June.

    https://www.transportforireland.ie/news/first-phase-of-2024-fares-determination-to-take-effect-from-23rd-june/

    The second is likely to happen at the end of September as per the fares determination report.

    https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2023-Fares-determination-v4.6.pdf

    For whatever reason, it's not liking the links…

    First phase of 2024 fares determination to take effect from 23rd June

    10TH JUNE 2024

    The first phase of the Transport for Ireland 2024 fares determination for Public Service Obligation (PSO) services that was announced earlier this year will take effect from Sunday 23rd June.

    Discounted TFI 90-minute €2 fare remaining in place

    Most of the discounted fares introduced in 2022, including the €2 TFI 90-minute fare in Dublin, are remaining in place.  The TFI 90 €2 fare  allows TFI Leap Card users free transfer between Dublin Bus, Luas and most DART, commuter rail and Go-Ahead Ireland services in Dublin. It has been a huge success. It has also has contributed to the increase in passenger numbers recorded across the city’s network.

    The adjustments in the first phase of the strategy include the removal of some cash period tickets in Dublin on Luas and Rail services.

    Short journey fares will increase slightly

    Short journey fares will increase slightly for Luas and Dublin Bus services from 23rd of June and for Irish Rail services on Monday 24th of June.  It will mean a 20 cent increase for TFI Leap Card users for short journeys with fares going from €1.30 to €1.50.  Cash short fares will change from €1.70 to €2.

    A new flat town fare of €1.50 for Leap Card users

    A new flat town fare of €1.50 for Leap Card users is being implemented on regional town bus services in Athlone, Balbriggan, Carlow, Drogheda, Dundalk, Navan and Sligo.  The cash fare for these town services will change to €2.

    Tickets purchased using a TFI Leap Card or via the TFI Go App continue to offer the best value fares. Half-price fares continue to apply to young adults aged 19-25 years who hold a valid Young Adult Leap Card and students aged 26 years and above who hold a valid Student Leap Card.

    Phase 2 later in the year

    Phase two of the strategy will take effect later this year and will aim to make fares more equitable and easy-to-understand. The cost per kilometre travelled will become more consistent and will be related to the straight-line distance between the origin and destination of journey. The second phase will also involve the implementation of the new Dublin City Zone and the new Dublin Commuter Zone, a significant reduction in Leap Card multimodal caps, and the introduction of Leap travel credit at all Dublin Commuter Zone rail stations. Overall, the fares changes are not projected to increase fare revenue but represent a rebalancing of fares so that they are fairer and more consistent across the board.

    For more information check outDublin BusGo-Ahead IrelandBus ÉireannIrish Rail, Luas

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Does the fare changes affect student tickets? If it does then wouldn't they want it in a bit sooner than end of September so that it's done in time for the back-to-school rush?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭feargantae


    Yes, student/young adult fare is half of adult, so if the adult fare goes up so does the student.

    Eg Bus Éireann town services were 55c for students (€1.10 for Adults) and will now be 75c since the Adult fare is now €1.50.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    On the day the revised fares came into play, an enquiry on the Dublin Bus Twitter/X page asked if fares had changed. The reply from Dublin Bus was that they had and to check the Dublin Bus website for more information. They only problem was that the website was still showing the old fares and had still not been updated the following day.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,902 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    They appear to have been updated now as does the Leapcard website.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,902 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    They appear to have been updated now as does the Leapcard website (which was also showing the old fares early this morning).

    Kinda basic stuff to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭feargantae


    I wonder why the NTA have never bothered to implement capping outside of BÁC? On the old Bus Éireann busses when you paid with Leap it'd say "Cap €9999.99"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,902 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Capping will be rolled out in the provincial cities as the new BusConnects networks start to be implemented, hopefully from next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭feargantae


    What about town services like Athlone or Carlow? Hopefully it applies to them too.

    It also seems a version of the TFI90 fare is already in place as tickets stay valid for 90mins and you can switch services during this time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Bumping this thread. NTA said they'd make these changes 'later this year' but it is disappointing to see no changes rolled out in time for the crucial back-to-school/back-to-college season. I guess we'll see if they can deliver it ahead of January when the bulk of annual taxsaver tickets get renewed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    Brother lives in Newbridge. Apparently it's looking like March 2025 for the changes there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,902 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    It was supposed to happen at the end of September, but the NTA informed the Oireachtas Transport Committee a few months ago that it would now be at least January 2025, due to unforeseen software issues that Irish Rail’s ticketing equipment provider was experiencing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Gold7


    When are all the Tickets Machines and Leap Card Scanners on Dublin Bus and Go Ahead ever going to be replaced. I have been up in Belfast in the last couple of days on Translink's Metro busses and they all have new Machines in place and even a new scanner for both Debit cards and I Link Cards (a bit like the Leap Card). The NTA really need get a move on with this and get it set up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,902 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    A contract has been awarded earlier this year by the NTA for a completely new back office system across PSO operators, and this will incorporate new ticketing equipment.

    Likely end of next year or early 2026 before we see it rolled out though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    does this include the annual new all mode ticket for €960?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,902 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Yes, annoyingly.

    All of the second round of changes are held back until they can resolve this, as it is a revenue neutral set of changes overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭feargantae


    Just to add to this, it seems TFI90 is definitely working on some town services. Tap on, charged €1.50 (€0.75 for YA/S) and any further busses within 90mins are free.

    Wonder why the NTA aren't advertising this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,902 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    The second round of fares changes from the 2024 fares determination are finally going to be implemented effective from 01 June 2025 per an email from Taxsaver yesterday.

    Reminder that these are outlined in this document (page 11 details what will happen in this phase):

    https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2023-Fares-determination-v4.6.pdf



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,523 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Interesting to see that they are removing the rambler tickets because "leap capping offers better value"

    Does leap capping apply to Xpresso services like the ramblers did?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭CoffeeImpala


    Yes.

    https://about.leapcard.ie/fare-capping

    "Please note: Capping applies to Dublin City Bus scheduled services including Xpresso. It excludes Nitelink…"

    There used to be part of the nitelink fare that went towards the cap but I see the nitelink is a lot cheaper now than when that was the case so probably fair enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,523 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I remember the nitelink being €5 on the leap to get me from Westmoreland to Maynooth back in 2012 and thinking that was pretty good value



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    What is an leap e-purse that the mention? Is this going to be via an app on your phone?

    They have to be commended for simplifying the fare structures and bringing in great reductions and incentives to use PT in Dublin. The multi modal nature of it shows that it is really transport for Ireland and it doesn't matter what mode is bringing you there.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    e-purse isn't new, it is how most people currently use Leap cards. When you top-up your leap card and put money on your card, it is stored in an e-purse on the card.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,053 ✭✭✭thomasj


    It would really be nice if leap card e-purse transactions could be contactless , similar to card transactions off a contactless reader.

    Atm if you are standing on a packed bus at the front beside the reader and texting someone you will likely set the reader off. Its happened to me a few times , showing that there is some form of interaction between the reader and your phone atm. It would be nice to see this develop into functionality that could benefit the passenger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,129 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    DailyMail says fares are likely to increase. That 2022 20% fare decrease likely to be revoked

    the subvention, which costs € hundreds millions anually represents a large % of DoT budget, could harm projects such as the MetroLink, Dart+, the Luas Finglas and BusConnects. DoT said the PSO, under which fares are reduced, ‘are socially necessary but financially unviable’.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭feargantae


    I don't think there's any chance of them doing that. The €2 fare in particular has been extremely popular with the public. If anything there'll be more reductions, not increases.

    Public transport doesnt need to be profitable or self sufficient. It brings a quality of life improvement that cannot be measured in euro values!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,129 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Maybe it is kite-flying via press release? Full story copied here



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    They should increase the cash fares and short fares, but leave the 90 minute ticket as is.

    The problem we have is that we have one of the worst public transport system in Europe and now they want to take away the one decent part of it!

    I wouldn’t mind if we had an amazing cycle network as an alternative for people to save money or a high quality system with Metrolink, DART+, etc. But no instead we are all stuck on crappy buses. Making us pay more for that will not be popular with the public.



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