Taylor Swift - Aviva Stadium June 2024

You really do spout rubbish and are an absolute bluffer of the highest order!

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Warned to keep it civil.

It makes zero difference to touts.

It just causes problems for consumers

They are just taking the piss now.

It does make a difference to touts. Of course it does.

If I'm buying a ticket off someone now for a gig and they can't transfer the ticket into my account today and the gig is months away, there's a huge likelihood I'm going to pass on that purchase and wait for a resale or until I can buy the tickets and get them immediately. And there are plenty of people who would be the same.

For the biggest touts who sell on resale sites it makes zero difference, they dont have to fulfill orders until transfer opens.

Most of them are overseas.

Anyway werent you the one saying there was no market for touts to sell for Taylor and there were no bots buying resale tickets.

I'm loathe to go through this again with you. The common punter will try all of the well-known ticket reselling sites (Stubhub, Viagogo, Ticcombo etc.) and find that those sites are either not selling tickets to any Irish gigs and if they do that the supply of tickets is TINY (Ticcombo has 90 tickets available over three nights). That is a fact and I've already gone through that with you and you've yet to product any evidence of tickets being sold in large volumes on touting websites.

You previously DM'd me a Discord chat where bots identify when tickets are available for purchase which is not the same as bots that purchase tickets. I can run that script myself (and used to do it for rugby games) and it achieves feck-all as you still need to get on and buy the tickets.

Point me on this thread to any reselling website that has a significant quantity of tickets available for Taylor Swift.

Ringsend park and dodder park might be options. Both very close and sound might travel well

So portaloos, not proper toilets at the back of the pitch. And the bar on the pitch is the only bar you can access if in general standing ?

What are you talking about? They are one in the same thing.

Touting is well down because of anti-resale legislation. This is a clearly backed up with the Top 10 global ticket resellers prohibiting resale of tickets in Ireland. It's not difficult to see that where there used to be thousands of tickets on resale, there are now barely any commercial reselling avenues so touting is clearly not the issue it once was (when you'd log onto Viagogo etc and see hundreds if not thousands of tickets). Let's call that Avenue A - Selling on Commercial Websites. I can no longer sell my ticket to you through the bigger reselling sites.

Then there's what we'll call Avenue B - Selling Privately. To limit or restrict this, Ticketmaster are then further looking to reduce the residual touting by trying to curtail people reselling themselves. If you want to buy a ticket off me today and I can't deliver the ticket to you immediately, there is a strong chance you are not going to buy my ticket and my ability to resell the ticket had reduced. Not eliminated, but significantly reduced.

So in essence, if I want to buy a ticket to tout that ticket for a higher price, Avenue A is not open to me and Avenue B is more difficult to sell tickets under. It's really not rocket science how both of these things have reduced touting.

And on your London point, you've answered your own question. If there was no touting issue, why wasn't resale opened on Day One. It's the same thing - transfer restricted until closer to the gig (albeit differing timeframes).

If you want to keep discussing it, can I suggest that you open a new thread to discuss touting and botting because this has gone way off-topic and I imagine people are fed-up seeing new posts to this thread and finding another discussion on touting.

Absolutely. Tickets are nearly always released closer to a gig when production holds are lifted and/or there are some returns. Happens all the time with music gigs and bigger rugby games.

The bad news it that there's no way to know when they'll pop up.

Do you know for those coming from the Green south route along with those in the South Stand are they able to access the stand once the show starts?

Work has begun.

Ah the good news on trying to get tickets keeps rolling on

That is a poor setlist Paramore are playing. Paramore went downhill after 2013 when they turned into a pop band rather than alternative rock.

Heading to the Saturday show this weekend heavily pregnant and hoping my partner can drop me off close as possible to the stadium so I have less walking to do. I’m in the West stand, never been to the Aviva before so not sure where is best for drop off if anyone has any advice?