Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours/Champions League Thread 2024/25

If we get anywhere near 40 for duran thats crazy.

Not excited about luiz move be hes not signed new contract so clearly open to a move and best of luck to him.

Imagine the psr trouble we would be in next year if we didnt get in champions league this year.

Looks like a busy summer of ins and outs ahead

PSR factors in cash and also a players value if its a swap. So of Duran was valued at, say, 40m, and Maatsen at 35m, so Chelsea gave us 5m plus Maatsen for Duran, thats still a total of 40m for PSR.

The PSR gig is up at the end of the month and nothing but rumours. We need to get the finger out and offload ASAP or we'll probably start the season -6 points

Fixtures are out.

West Ham away to start. United away on the last day (sigh).

Last 6 games are pretty tough. Man City, Newcastle, Spurs and United (along with 2 easier games).

Weston Mckennie is holding up the deal for Luiz apparently. Illing has agreed terms but Mckennie is looking for a pay off from Juve since his contract expires next year (whatever the hell that means).

I heard he was a bit disruptive at Leeds, at least it looks like his agent is a bit of a problem if not the player himself.

Ornstein saying that the deal for Maatsen is done. This is an exciting one. And I assume it means that the deal for Duran going the other way is also done (or close to done).

I'm also seeing links to Lewis Dobbin from Everton. I know the name, but don't know much about him apart from the fact that he is a young left sided winger.

I would assume so. The rumours I have seen (no idea if reliable or not!) are that Moreno is a bit homesick and would like to go back to Spain. He also had a lot of injury problems last year. So that would make sense.

Digne is on huge wages, but played well last season.

There's something really dodgy and unedifying in a lot of these deals.

In previous years Kellyman and Iroegbunam would have been looked at as possible future stars for Villa, being nurtured and developed slowly, like what exactly was happening with Iroegbunam over last fee seasons, and how Ramsey and Grealish were developed to be 1st team choices.

Now they are being traded around between clubs, willy nilly at big prices just to cook the books for PSR, to where they'll be infrequently used outsiders. Anyone seriously think Chelsea are dropping 20 million on Kellyman to have him as a 1st team option next year? Or that Lewis Dobbin is an Emery key signing for Champions League success.

It's ugly

PSR rules should be forcing our hand to develop players (we are shockingly bad at it) and turn the finances around. Even if its 1 players a year getting 10-12 starts and 10-12 sub appearances across all competitions. Since the Grealish sale, that would be 4-5 players on lower wage than a bought player, no sign on fee of note and 100% profit at a higher price because of game time if we choose to sell.

We'd have been better off pushing Philogen to the left than signing Zaniolo for example and Zaniolo made around 40 appearances for Villa and close to 0 contribution.

Dougie off for €50 million and the two young lads from Juve in for €22 million. Not the worst deal.

This is a very ugly transfer window. Reading about a points deduction would obviously feel worse but I’m not enjoying reading Villa related news at the moment. Sooner the better, the actual football is back.

Dobbin signing confirmed by the club. Will be interesting to see if he is shipped out on loan. Or has Emery seen something in him that he thinks he can work with ( ala Rogers).

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It's a numbers and business's game. We shouldn't pretend there isn't favourable treatment.

Absolutely, but if Villa and Newcastle become very good they’ll be in that bracket too. The current rules aren’t suiting Villa very much at the moment, but the Premier League are currently also in an active battle to punish Man City’s alleged financial cheating.

In terms of the league being a closed shop or whatever, the notion that the teams who can generate the most financial resources will win more often over a longer period of time is basically a universality across football.

Villa fans wanting the financial rules opened up for them, are gonna get an awful shock if it happens and they realise they’re even further behind Newcastle and Man City.

This doesn’t really sit with the whole thing of the Premier League going head to head with one of the big 6 in a case that would see them face serious consequences if they lose it.

I would argue that the current rules have actually helped Villa. I can’t imagine Villa are playing CL football this year if Newcastle had been able to spend as much as they wanted to.