COVID-19 in Summer 2024

Not sure how that really relates to my post?

I agree with a lot of what you say there but I think you go too far / dubious in places.

Our immune system does not do well with constant infections, especially as we age. Thats not good either. A balance ia needed.

If exposure to germs and infections made for a top immune system then 19th century mortality rates from infectious disease should be tiny. Instead we see the opposite. Vaccines and hygiene were needed to make the difference.

And with covid we see it hitting in summer wave. No respite unlike flu.

I would also add, I have seen people coming into office, before they should, while infectious. Acting the martyr. Consequence - taking out successive members of the team.

It was a bad idea pre covid and even worse now . Not good for productivity, not good for that person as it delays their full recovery nor the colleagues.

My original point was that covid isnt just a serious issue for over 80s.

How do you know it wasnt the case about constant infections? It may well have been but it is more of an issue with covid with more frequent waves.

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/covid-19-study-suggests-long-term-damage-immune-system

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-risky-are-repeat-covid-infections-what-we-know-so-far/

If the view you expressed of the immune system was correct we wouldnt have needed vaccines and hygiene in the 19th century to reduce deaths from infection as they would had optimal immune systems from all the exposures. There is a limit to what it can do.

The points about how you approach travelling I agree with, the emphasis on isolating when infectious. You can have a cough post viral without being infectious. But the issue / my concern is that too many people will interpret the advice you quote to go out with symptons ewhen infectious.

Granted it can be hard to tell if infectious. However if testing positive, sneezing all over the place, coughing crap all over the place, temperature - those are signs you are. I think isolation should be more strongly recommended / set as a societal norm.

Rushing yourself back with those symptoms is a recipe for lingering post viral issues. Not doing yourself any favours in long run.

A lingering dry cough post infection or fatigue is different to the above.

And I woud emphasise the point your immune system aint going to get any stronger from repeated covid infections. It doesnt need that. Vulnerable or no. The evidence suggests the opposite. And every infection is a roll of the dice that could lead to post viral symptons / long covid.

Thats why I disagree with your statement... we got on fine before covid. Well tbh I dont think we really did if we had looked more closely at it. But with Covid we wont, thats what the data says to me.

Please stop spreading this misinformation. Sars-CoV2 is like any other corona virus. The reason it had such an impact on some people is because it was a novel virus that the immune system had not seen before. Now that most / all of our immune systems have been primed to the virus both through infection and vaccination the severe effects will become much rarer. Similar rare side effects occur with other coronaviruses and with influenza type viruses.

I’m currently down with it I presume. Husband tested himself as he wanted to visit elderly parents but had symptoms and antigen was positive. He shouldn’t visit with symptoms anyway. Test or no test. I haven’t tested and won’t bother as we have no tests left.

Mainly head cold, aches and pains, sore throat and brain fog. No fever

I’m avoiding people but not staying at home as kids are fine and need to be taxid around of course.

Jesus Christ. Do you even read what you link

Just the part about testing positive for weeks. That's with PCR testing. Antigen tests, the tests you use at home, you remain positive and contagious as long as you test positive on the antigen tests. Normally longer than 5 days as well.

Capitalism.

The CEO of an airline wanted isolation reduced because of his staff being out sick. He got what he wanted.

The isolation period was reduced so that people wear a well fitting mask afterwards. People are forgetting that part.

I haven’t coughed at all. I hope I don’t get a cough. Never had a temperature either. Day 6 here and I’m working today. About 90% better I’d say.

If I was sick obviously I would have to have taken sick leave.

@odyssey06 they are using that word "mild" again.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/very-transmissible-covid-strain-evolving-away-from-vaccine-1740820

A ‘very transmissible’ COVID-19 variant is spreading across Ireland – and it is 'evolving away' from the strain in the vaccines. 

The F-Lineage Recombinant Type (FLiRT) group are new variants of COVID that emerged from Omicron.

These variants are “quite mild” compared to earlier COVID variants among healthy people, Prof Mills explained.

If you end up with the new variant, however, Prof Mills said it can help you build immunity for the future. 

“Obviously, you don't want to get infected if you're very vulnerable,” he said. “But the disease is very mild in healthy individuals. 

“So getting the disease, you're actually getting the variant that's circulating, so you're getting good immunity.” 

According to Johns Hopkins University, the symptoms of the FLiRT variants are the same as other COVID strains – although they are weaker. 

These symptoms include a sore throat, runny nose, cough and shortness of breath – particularly among people who are not vaccinated.