?????? v Trump (and one or two others) The US Presidential election 2024. Read OP before posting

those are the people who always vote anyway.

No way they would have voted for Trump instead or spoiled their vote or not voted

It's a gerontocracy. Bush jr, Clinton and Obama all did two terms and they are all younger than Trump and Biden.

I fear for what our gerontocracy phase may look like.

It looks like a step too far for Biden, watching to see how the DNC react now.

If it is Newsom, expect some manufactured "surprise" at some point from the trump campaign.

It's like we are witnessing the fall of an empire. The very fact that the two of these are the "best" America can put forward is a disgrace. In saying that my criticism of both are completely different. Biden is clearly not up to it but is a different kettle of fish from that incompetent piece of human excrement he's running against.

It's actually depressing. Whilst we are told it'll have little impact on the rest of us, I am terrified what another Trump term will do to geopolitics around the world. What becomes of Ukraine? If Ukraine falls what next? Especially since Trump is vocally anti nato and had made some outlandish comments.

It's a depressing time.

I think the whole world has been watching this slow motion car crash now for some time - I don’t think any one person or group of people had the power to stop it happening though - it takes a lot of money and time to build up a presidential candidate - it’s no easy task

Agree, but I just cannot understand that the democrats had 4 years to put forward a new candidate. Ageism aside it's just not sound to putt all your eggs in an 81 year old man. He was the right man to beat Trump in 2020, but they should have started to build a new candidate on Thursday 5th of November 2020. Even if they didn't need to use him/her, they had a break glass in case of emergency. It's clear to all that Biden has been fading badly over the last few years and is moving and acting every bit his age.

The issue is now, they have lost control of the narrative to a scumbag criminal. If Biden wins it's highly unlikely he can serve another 4 years which means the narrative will be that a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris as president. So why not just pull the cord and pick a new candidate. It wouldn't take much to beat Trump so a new candidate could actually win.

Yeah with you on that - I guess the one person who could persuade Biden not to run again and just see out this term, is his wife. She’ll be critical but by some accounts at least, she seems to relish the First Lady status so she’ll have to get over losing that first, before she can bring her mind around to persuading Joe not to run again.

As for agism, again I agree - this has nothing to do with age but as we’ve seen with pretty much all past US presidents, the office ages you quite considerably - it is certainly a “young persons” game - you need to be mentally tough but also physically tough to endure the rigours of this office and for the American people to have a strong leader whether it’s Republican or Democrat - I know a 90 year old who I’d place well ahead of Biden in terms of both mental and physical agility- but I wouldn’t recommend him for office either. I don’t like Trump but he certainly presents fitter but his ramblings do give cause for concern -but again, I think there a better stronger and more capable leaders out there who have the right energy - and yes younger too. Leaders throughout the western world are a lot younger these days - a country leader role today demands a lot more of the person than it did 30 years ago

Michelle Obamas name in some news reports on TV when presenters are talking with the reporters - I’d be very surprised though if that came to be.

Dirt! Thats the biggest fear I’d say of picking a new candidate at short notice - you don’t know what the tabloids will uncover

either way it’s job done- a sexually harassed intern from 20 years ago, a lover spurned, a secret money deal - if a public representative has enemies looking to get even, it may not even take a paid team to find them - they might just walk up to a TV studio and start talking, having negotiated their rate via their lawyer in advance

Old farts the pair of them.

Hilarious seeing the left and right backing "their man".

Have a press conference organised for that later.

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Biden is only a year younger than the combined age of our last two Taoiseach.

It's crazy to think that in a climate where world leaders are getting younger (open to debate if its a good thing) that the superpower seem to adhere to the 'male, pale and stale' stereotype.

Can't believe Biden is a US president though in his current state. Have seen ould lads like that throughout my life on their final lap.