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Elden Ring (George RR Martin and From Software)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,317 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Scadutree Avatar actually gave me more trouble than most; not even sure why. Just really struggled to get a proper rhythm going for most of the tries.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I think there's just sometimes everyone just hits a mental block against certain From bosses for whatever reason. Build type can be a factor for sure (as an Int caster I had a very easy time doing decent damage to Scadutree consistently) but sometimes I think there's no rhyme or reason to why a particular boss gives you trouble. It was Jori for me, although I maintain the stupid adds in that fight were the main reason I kept pulling my hair out :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,317 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That's true. Jori, Commander Gaius and the Golden Hippo are three that I beat first time even though they give others a lot of trouble, but that's because enemies/bosses who are large or small groups of enemies near each other (like Jori's adds), the Nebula on Wing of Astel just wrecks (I know I keep banging that drum, but it's so damn good). Whereas bosses like Messmer and Rellana, they only get a bit of the Nebula or move too quickly to be caught in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to get to the lower eastern parts of the map, until I eventually made my way down to Bonny village. But even that wasn't enough, I still couldn't access the very visible ruins in the river. Spent ages trying to get down to it but I eventually gave up and googled it. So many areas hidden away that you can easily miss, even when specifically searching for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    What usually happens to me is that I’m in a big area, and can see there is potentially 2 or more paths. I venture down one path and just forget that there was an alternate route as you are completely side tracked and occupied with the new area you found



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Oh look, a huge empty arena. I might as well just stick that katana through myself now and get it out of the way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,317 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Were you given something to summon an NPC for the fight? If so, worth trying once anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I met a guy who sounded like he got 10 kicks to the balls and i got a cook book, couldn't see any summon sign though, might have missed it? Bale is incredibly hard, actually similar to final boss with how quick he is on you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,317 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    You might have to talk to him (Igon) a few times, he gives you a Finger item so you can summon him for the fight. It's the one I missed. His item is in one of the other menu pages in the inventory for some reason so I couldn't find it to summon him (and apparently people are putting messages down on top of where his summon sign appears). But I saw a video of bringing him into the fight, it's pretty good. Worth watching the video at least if you can't or don't want to bring him into the fight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Oh i keep hearing about how good is a character he is. Cool, I'll go back to him and then try the fight again, thanks!

    Speaking of Jagged Peak is absolutely class, the tense atmosphere is amazing for an optional area.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    He disappeared but Google told me i had to kill the 2 drakes on the mountain, did that and got the finger, summoned him against Bayle and he was useless. Basically the monty python knight chatting **** with no limbs 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Think i need to take a bit of a break, the final boss is mind numbingly hard.

    This is very accurate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,317 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah he's worth bringing in just for the voice lines, but seems like he's not much addition other than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Oh god enthusiasm is class, sounds like he's going to wage absolute war in him to turn around and miss 4 arrow shots in a row 😂



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,924 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I beat the Chinese dragon guy and Rellana and kind of did it handily. Used my summon as well as the story summon for both. Kind of feels like I'm cheesing it since I heard Rellana is tough but with me and Mimic tear building up bleed damage he was a bit of a chump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,317 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah Rellana's not too bad. I actually used Tiche for aggro and went magic to beat her. Once you know how to avoid the moons she's relatively simple.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Some surprisingly talky bits in this, relative to the From norm. Did the Ansbach / Leda fight and they were chatting away throughout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Few days behind everyone, just got to Messimer who promptly annihilated me. The Shadow Keep in general I found okay with a strength build, my poise is high enough to make light work of most of those knights.

    That f*cking hippo though. The moveset would be fine if the space wasn’t so cramped, pretty much all deaths were due to the camera or lock releasing after getting hit.

    All in all it’s great to be back!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Actually speaking of Tiche, I tried to use her once in the final boss after the glowing reviews and she died before phase 2 😅

    But just reading up on it and it’s well known now that Tiche isn’t suited to that boss



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    She’s good in some fights as she’s such a tank, but definitely not in all. I’ve found giving my Mimic Tear Rivers of Blood while focusing on casting myself has been a very effective approach for several bosses, as the Mimic will happily spam Bloodbound’s Fang and get that precious blood loss damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    My favourite and most important attribute is Poise. That's why i lean into the great shield and as heavy armour as possible while staying medium weight. Only today, i learned about the finger print greatshield from the base game that has huge poise and holy protection. I also learned of the greatshield talisman that boosts poise to the point where you can get almost 100 poise. It's now my mission to get those 2 items before trying the end boss. In my head, 100 poise and 75 holy protection while using mohg's spear to stab while holding up the shield and let mimic cry use bloodboone ritual. It sounds like a good plan but i could go through all the that trouble for him to still one shot me 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Looking at videos the shield is definitely the best strategy for that boss. I went through both the base and DLC without a shield though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Right, sat down to go get the finger print shield. Google, where is it?.... Aw feck thaaaaaaaat 😩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    I beat the final boss today. My normal dodge, dip, duck and dive playstyle, and various iterations of it, were getting nowhere so I tried blocking instead with a medium shield. It worked a bit better so I went full greatshield. I opted for the black steel greatshield as it has the best holy protection, and a more reasonable strength requirement and it worked a treat. A couple of more tries later, me and my very tanky mimic emerged victorious.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Just got the fingerprint shield, i would NEVER have found that without a guide. Takes 48 strength to wield it and even though i always have high strength, but not that high, so I'm off to respec, then to get the greatshield talisman and ban to the final boss. Good to hear your tank strategy worked!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Ah crap, the black steel greatshield looks a better option for me 😩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Grabbed the blacksteel shield instead and got the greatshield talisman. Huge difference, went from getting him to about 90% health left to now 25%. Actually defending the 2nd phase easier with the holy protection but the grab is a killer and not being able to get many hits in between his long ass combos. I'm still icky 16 tree blessing and 7 ash blessing so still probably under leveled. Progress none the less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Man, the absolute shame. I just learned that upgrading shields increases guard boost (less stamina drain). I always thought upgrades increased attack attribs which is pretty pointless so always ignored upgrading shields. I went through the whole game with a level 0 shield when my main strategy in any fight is to absorb their combo with my shield and hit them back with remaining stamina. To the blacksmith!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 HopingforNewZ


    After over 200 hours on Elden Ring the DLC finally made me learn how to parry. If you know you know!



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Havent had a whole lot of time to play over the last few days so not sure I’ll finish it before a holiday-imposed hiatus. But only have a few of the major optional bosses left so nearly there.

    Did Metyr last night which wasn’t too bad, though in the second phase has one of the more insane AOE effects I’ve seen (the floating laser one). Doesn’t hit super hard so it’s survivable, but genuinely couldn’t find a safe dodging zone as the laser’s area was so massive I couldn’t even roll through it. Maybe it’s a case of running in a circle to dodge it?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,924 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Had a quick go after getting home late last night which ended up as a 2 hour jog up jagged peak to bayle.

    I'm loving the aesthetic of the game but it's really ruined by the deferred rendered engine. The dithered transparencies on the grace stones look awful, really wish we could go back to real alpha instead of dithered effects that looked awful back on the Sega Saturn. Digital foundry just flat out ignores it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,317 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Have done pretty much everything I can reasonably do in the DLC. My summons and I are +9 and +18 respectively, and I have some of the upgrade material to get to the next level of each, but I think trying to find the last few won't be worth it and would be difficult even with a guide as I haven't tracked which ones I have.

    Part of me says to bring my character into NG+ with the new weapons and items I got from the DLC (really enjoying the backhand blades, would love to see it against some of the main game bosses and enemies), Part of me says to use my NG+ character and just go through the DLC again, but then another part of me says play Baldurs Gate 3 again or any of the numerous games I bought this year but ignored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    I'm looking forward to NG+, the main game will probably be a breeze after the DLC. But I'll probably take a break before another play through as I've now logged over 350 hours across three characters.

    You have to play BG3 soon, it surpassed Elden Ring as the GOAT for me, but I suppose it depends on what you're in the mood for as it scratches a different kind of itch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,317 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Oh I definitely played BG3 before; one of the best games I've ever played. Just getting a hankering for playing it again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    He got my black steel shield to +25 giving 77 guard boost which is the default for finger print shield which has me 2nd guessing, maybe should have gone with that. Anyway, beat the scadtree avatar because of the reward that will help. Hilariously, i died on my first attempt but mimic tear hit a blow as i was turning to dust killing him. Damn, i love that guy.

    I have shield grease but also a spell to buff shield guard boost. Trying to use the spell, it is a slightly dark icon and my guy tries to use the seal but nothing happens. I have to check how much fp is needed for that spell and maybe not enough fp when full to even use it. One yi get that figured out, I'm ready for the final boss again.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,924 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Beat Bayle and now I'm back exploring the second area of the game. There's just so much to do and discover on the map, it and Zelda really put to shame every other open world game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Damn, end boss kicking my ass. My shield is blocking everything, no issue with that, i only get hit when trying to attack and when i do land, it's not taking off much. The 2nd phase, I'm just not getting any hits in as the combos are too long and when there is a gap, my 1 little spear jab isn't cutting it. Then mimic dies and it's a matter of time before i join him. I just know there's a better setup i could be using to make the most out of my attacks. I can consistently bet him down to 25% so getting there.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Also just beat Bayle and Igon is now my official favourite NPC in any Fromsoft game. What an absolute **** lunatic of a lad.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Additional note on Bayle: that ascent to the peak is one of the great bits of From ominous spectacle. That’s how you build up to a boss fight.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,924 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    He survived the fight for me. His dialogue after is fantastically deranged.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,767 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Yeah he survived mine too, quite handily even. Thought it seemed like a tough fight at first but given Igon is summonable in the arena you don’t have to worry about the additional boss health buff AFAIK. Only annoying part is summoning him in the first place when a bloody drake is legging it towards you 😅

    The way he just yells ‘BAAAAYLLLLLEEE!’ when he’s summoned is a delight. He’s very committed to the bit. And then before he disappeared at the end he was just constantly switching weapons like a bored human summon 😂



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,924 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    If you return to where he is in the arena where the two dragons fought you'll find his dead body and gear. All he wanted to do was taken down Bayle in his life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    And he's done. Jesus, don't know how many hours i spent on the final boss but I went through multiple rebuilds to test a few different things, nothing worked. Went back to my original with a couple of talisman tweaks that basically ramped up my stamina and hp to allow me to guard and spear without taking damage and then it was all about managing my stamina. Only took 2 and a half minutes in the end, absolutely epic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Just put messmer down. A classic FromSoftware boss - took some time to recognise his attack patterns but once that was done it didn’t take too long.

    No idea where to go now! Probably hunt for scadutree fragments, only at 6 so have probably left loads behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I got Mesmer last evening on my second try, but I'm lvl ~220 and blessing lvl 12(or 14, need to check) so probably I'm quite overpowered because certainly I'm not that good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    level 12 is the softcap now since the patch update. Not too much difference from upgrading after that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    Started the game up. As I said I was gifted it a long time ago and never really got into it.

    However I notice my FPS in it has totally tanked. The game settings and the PC haven't changed. I wonder did the DLC or some patches before the DLC tank anything that anyone has heard of?

    First run many months ago gave me really smooth high FPS on max. Now I am getting 25 to 35 and occasional hard stutters.

    Dropped the Quality settings from "max" to "high" expecting at least some impact. Literally nothing. Not a 1FPS difference in the average. Updated all my graphics drivers and monitor driver and nothing also.

    Mostly it's playable but I tried out that zombie who turns into a Rune Bear near the starting area and got serious stutters every time he charged. So I imagine boss fights would be worse if I played that far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Cordell


    It could be that you have raytracing enabled, I disabled it on my system (3080ti / 10850k) because it caused poor framepacing and framerate drops with no obvious quality improvement.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    I've only a 3070OC so maybe I was only getting good FPS at Max due to the base game being light. I am sure all kinds of patches and DLC have been installed since then. Probably screwed something up. 99.99% sure nothing else has changed between then and now.

    But yes RT was on. I will turn it off and give it awhile and see if anything changes.



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