Donald Trump the Megathread part II - threadbans and mod warnings in OP

Why are you asking the question when you know the answer ?

Unfortunate by the sounds of it. Like a certain justice not retiring at an appropriate moment timing and age may hurt the US people. Obviously you could ask the Republicans to govern with a sense of decency but that is like setting all prisoners loose and asking them to behave.

The one good thing that came out of a Trump's election last time is it seemed to delay the rise of the right in Europe. He was easy pickings for centrist politicians to get easy PR and the more senile version of Trump is unlikely to cause much issues for the likes of Starmer when they want to get props from a left wing base back home.

May as well turn the White House into a care home ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ although all Trump looks as if needs is is some soap suds up his rear

Here's hoping they both keel over and die before November.

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Definitely a game changer. Bidens political legacy is ousting Trump from office. That is now at risk if he is bent on running again. His after talk about beating Trump now means he has to accept that his part in that is to now step down and endorse someone else in August. Anyone else and the probability of beating the alley cat increases. Frame it as being for the good of the country. If he runs and Trump wins then the Democrats will only have themselves to blame. It's not as if Bidens energy hasn't been known. Surely machinations would be happening about moving on the possibility of implementing a replacement. It's a country that put men on the moon with a hard deadline. They now have another deadline in August to find a replacement. Have at it.

Trumps new election advert is already made

I know no nicknames should be used on this forum, but, it's very vindicating as a trump fan and someone who finds biden ridiculous, to see joe live up to his nicknames, on CNN of all places, and hand trump a second term.

The only way this would have been better would be if someone like Rachel Maddow was conducting the debate.

On a logical note, for the DNC I can't see a way out of this. Biden is practically unelectable now. They can't nominate someone else as Biden won all their primaries.

Some see it as a negative. Some can overlook it and I suspect many that overlook it see it as a positive. Many are just willing to accept everything and anything to bully one particular group.

In any case either way this goes the US gets the eldest president it ever has. I see reports Russia sees Trump as the Gorbachev for the US and the end of that era. In China many favoured Trump for a weak US.

If Trump wins I suspect many an. Maybe Biden is too old but either he or his handlers have done a good job over the last 4 years. The party of law and order will accept anything hing for a felon. The evangelicals will be happy for a rapist adulterer over someone who actually follows religious laws though that 2nd one is certainly not new as we know in Ireland.

Last night's debate is the best thing that could have happened the Dems.

There is now no doubt. No ifs, ands or buts. No arguments about unfavourable editing, or context.

It is unavoidable. Unarguable. Biden has to be removed as the Democratic nominee for President in the November general election.

Any Democrat with any influence at all who isn't making that their absolute priority today, is not worthy of the name.

I'd half expect to see a fleet of black SUVs arriving at the West Wing before the end of the day containing Barack Obama, the Clintons, Al Gore, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Hakeem Jeffries, to insist to Biden that he go.

And Kamala Harris and Jill Biden should be right behind them.

not that easy

@JonathanTurleyThere is a great deal of discussion about the 25th amendment after the chilling moments in last night's debate with President Biden. As I have previously written, the amendment was written primarily with physical disabilities in mind. It is far more difficult with mental decline.

It was quite something to observe the CNN crew in a total state of panic immediately after the debate concluded last night. No attempt to even play it down. Even I didn't thing he was that bad but I suppose that's because I've grown accustomed to him stuttering.

I think it's a pity that Biden's frailty will be enough to swing it for Trump. It would have been much more fun to watch the contest unfold with that not in the equation.

For the Democrats being unelectable isn't an insurmountable problem. Dropboxes are their solution🤣

Womp womp

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Tis yourself, Dinesh.