Can Rural FTTH get 2Gb?

The early OpenEir rural fibre rollout was gpon, NBI is rolling out a xgs-pon network.

I assume at this time OpenEir are rolling out an xgs-pon network, if so it'll be down to the retail providers to offer a 2 Gbps product.

No technical reason they cant all sell 2Gig speeds now. However IMHO saying its 2Gig speeds is a marketing exercise. Most hard drives cant consistently write data at anywhere near that speed. Network cables from routers to computers tend to be capable of no more than 1Gig. Not forgetting that no matter how fast the fibre is ,unless the servers at the other end can send data at 2Gig then its excess capacity. 4K Tvs run easily on about 50Meg each. So unless you have about 5 connections hammering the line at max then at the moment 2Gig is overkill. That said this might not be the case in 5-10 years time :) Dammit i feel OOOLLLLDDDD writing this. 8 years ago i was in awe of 25Meg speeds :) 3 years before that it was 3Meg speeds :)

The 2gb option requires a different router ie 10gb port and stp+ adapter. The only ones who bother offering this are Vodafone and Blacknight. And I wouldn't hold your breath on blackknight. They still haven't responded to me while VF have already wired me up.

Unless your house is ethernet wired forget about 2gb…I was in the same board but while I was gonna upgrade from 1gb to 2gb the only device currently capable of 1gb is my NAS because its wired directly to the VF router. I need to install network ports both downstair, wire them up to a switch in the utility and add network ports to my PC room and wire them back to the switch in the utility.

forget bout powerlines- they top out at 250megs even the fancy 2.5gb ones I have…and even a wifi mesh system will lose a couple of hundreg megs upstairs..

l was looking at those actually. I don't think any of the rooms are wired for extra tv but I must definitely check.

I have the Vodafone 2gb plan, but the router can't even negotiate a link when using the SFP+ adapter. Therefore I can't even get 2gb speeds and I'm stuck at 1gb despite paying for it. Vodafone support can't help with this either

I have a UDM Pro which has 2x 10gb ports and should happily manage the 2gb line coming in from my ONT at 10gb. But for some reason it refuses to negotiate at 10gb even though when plugged into a switch it will blink at 10gb speeds. It is coming in from a 30metre run over Cat6 from outside the building

yes, the ISP could only get fibre line in form the edge of the road. This is where the ONT is located. Then a CAT6 wire is used to run that line roughly 30metres into another building where the UDMP is located in a network room

Off topic, but is there any practical need for these speeds in the average house with zoom calls, Netflix, online gaming etc?

Yes, I’ve a need for high speeds. I’m doing video editing work from home and host multiple servers. I have a couple TBs of traffic every week so bandwidth is needed. Currently maxed out at 1gb and would love to see full speeds and be ready for future speeds up to 10gb too

In the Average house, no. The entry level 500mbps package will allow users to stream 16 simultaneous 4k streams from Apple TV (generally considered the highest bitrate 4k streams at ~ 30mbps)

Unless you transferring massive files on a regular basis, and time is of the essence, or are hosting content from your own home, the entry level package is actually overkill for the average home.

Mostly work is freelance and I have a few servers in my network which other users are accessing files from. I don't have a need for huge download speeds, more the upload is important to me since my upload is other users maximum download when accessing the file server. A 500mbps package will only give me 50mbps upload where as the 2gb gives 250mbps. If homes could get synchronous connections I would opt for a 500/500 as that would be plenty.

I've never seen any warnings about fair usage. ISP is Vodafone but might be worth looking into.

I don't know if the run is in conduit, but the cable shouldn't be the bottleneck. The issue may be that the SFP+ Adapter has a maximum range. But Unifi advertises it as 100m at 10gb compatible with cat 6a or 50 metres with cat6.

Furthermore, I can see that the line negotiates 10gb with my Zyxel switch but refuses to negotiate at all when plugged into any of the 10gb SFP+ ports on the UDM with rj45 adapter.

Where is the Zyxel switch? Same location as the UDM Pro?

Yes, Zyxel Switch is in the network room on the same rack as UDMP. I will test on the weekend if I move UDMP next to ONT if that fixes issue. But it is nice to have all network stuff in a single, central location

I'm more referring to having to uploading large amount of data to somewhere remote.

I understand it's probably a bit niche and has some cost associated with it for the ISP.

just as an update on this. I moved the UDMP to the building with the ONT and it worked fine and I got my full 2gb speeds. I’ve isolated the problem to the Cat6 run into the primary building. That refused to negotiate at all whether I set is manually to 10/1gb. However worked fine when plugged into 1gb rj45 port. The run is about 30-50 metres in length and I’m using the official UniFi SFP+ adapter which is rated for 100metres.

Only other options are to possibly purchase the UniFi Flex 10gb as this has 10gb rj45 for testing. Or to see if I can run another cable and use fiver for the run.

Let me know if you have any thoughts

I managed to borrow a cable tester today. I’ll use that to test the run. The issue might be linked to the wire used alright. Termination wouldn’t be a problem. Thanks for the suggestion