Biden v Trump (and one or two others) The US Presidential election 2024. Read OP before posting

To be fair Biden was in reasonably good shape when in Ireland which was just before he announced he was running again.

But like many people of his age, a mental and physical decline can happen fairly rapidly.

Still think a dementia affected Biden would be a better option than Trump, or do less damage. Trump has shown a willingness to abandon allies at the drop of a hat, and encouraged the Russians to attack countries who don't spend big on defence. That's hardly the sign of someone who'd get tough on Putin. And that's just foreign policy.

There is the not insignificant matter of campaign funds for consideration, only Biden or Harris can use them.

Well if America is actually daft enough to vote Trump I guess it'll give Alec Baldwin/SNL a career resurgence.

Be funny to watch for any and all non-Americans.

He wont step aside. Biden. Not his nature.

At the moment it looks like Trump will win but a long way to go. Don't despair yet

He was me arse.

The man has been a hollow shell for years.

That's the point.

The Dem party want a mannequin, not a functioning human as POTUS.

Can't rule by committee when you have a strong leadership.

This is why age limits need to be set. For me it should be 70. Ageist, there's already a minimum age requirement so no reason there's not a maximum age limit. The same goes for their Congress and Senate too. McConnell and Feinstein were so clearly unfit for office at their later stages.

The Democrats really fcuked up selecting Harris as VP. She has been an absolute no mark for 4 years. The most invisible VP in my lifetime.

By generating no profile and doing nothing of decernable value in that time she is now not a viable option to step in to the breech to take on Trump in November. They knew this day was coming and did nothing to prepare. Biden seems like a decent guy whos had his fair share of tragedy in his life but has always struggled with a stammer and that was going to become more of an issue as he aged. Last night seemed to be more than that and I hope his family have the good sense to talk him out of continuing in the race.

There's no real alternative to replace him though.

He always had a stammer but he didn't stammer last night.

Harris was a sop to the activists in the party, her primary campaign should have been enough to finish her at even local political level, instead she ticked the boxes for rich kids and was made veep.

This footage from the immediate aftermath of the debate shows how serious the decline in Biden's cognitive abilities is - unless Alex Jones is exceptionally good at creating deepfakes.

https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1806701676142694810

The conspiracy head in me would say that such an early debate and such a poor performance, with a previously unheard of totally open fear amongst Democrats actually talking about his mental faculties, wasn't completely unplanned by the DNC.

I really feel like left-wing media could have had Republicans talking about Biden's performance for all those hours afterwards, but across the board, they seemingly went with long-term Democrats who all started talking about the same thing, "he failed his one job which was to convince America he was fit to lead another term" and "there are high up Democrats, elected officials, who are seriously concerned". This just days after any talk like this was branded as "cheap fakes" and "MAGA conspiracies" by the same people.

He hasn't indicated that he will step down so now the entire focus is back on supporting him with an across-the-board message that his rally afterwards was a different man. I'm not sure how well this can work because it seems to be based on voters forgetting all of their interactions with old people, and what having good and bad days means.

They will have to support Biden, they cant pivot now or it would make them look dishonest, its better than any Hollywood plot though

It was funny reading all the people saying Biden was fine when you could tell they didn't even believe it themselves.

After that even the greatest liars couldnt continue on with that nonsense.

Trump will win because they are running a man who the world can see is not well.

The poor chap should be in a nursing home and it's unfair on him to be putting him through this.

I've noticed all the people who consistently say that Biden is fine and it's all a maga conspiracy are conspicuously absent since last night, for the most part. They certainly aren't still saying that anyway.

well the maga base in the media were also saying Biden was on amphetamines so it’s difficult to believe anything said by them