Uisce Éireann kicking it right out of the park

Profits?

How exactly are they funded?

and yet i am 19 months boiling water in Limerick. ive actually given up hope ill ever be able to use my tap water again.

Commercial water is paid for

I refuse to call them by anything other than Irish Water.

Feeble rebranding attempt to put their shítty origins behind them. And they're still shít.

This.. exactly this! No doubt cost a fortune to rebrand (at our expense) too!

It's like the Gardai renaming the Traffic Corps to "Roads Policing" in the wake of the penalty points scandal - not fooling anyone lads.

Irish Water ,RTE,The HSE.The RSA,

Will I go on or is that enough for now.

Its a great country if you have loads of money and move in the right circles.

But for the rest of us just keep paying your taxes to an incompidant Government who will waste your money and give it away to people from other countries who are basically having a nice holiday on your coin

Uisce Eireann lol. Did someone get a promotion for that or get fired ha ha.

I read the EPA press release before the article. It was 90% focused on agriculture so probably not the best footing for calling out the quango incompetence.

Because the intention was never to improve the actual water in the first place. It was setup as a shell to "manage" people and duties that were already being performed by the council, and to get the population used to paying (again - because it's not as though those council staff were free!) for basic water as a product before FG sold it off down the line.

lots of poorly informed people at the time and doesn't seem to have changed. You would be amazed how many "expert" on Irish water still don't know commercial water is paid for, anyway

The Irish system is crippled, pipes are old and in reality needs a total overhaul.

After the crash the option was to save money, when looking across Europe most countries have charges and that is why the push was to create a company to safe guard the future of water in Ireland and to reduce government spend in the area

Of course people spread lots of nonsense, history is history and Irish Water was taken back in as a government entity.

One of the most important things people need to live is water, yet that was the one thing people went after :-)

Predictable.. always the same posters with the same lines.

I wasn't talking about commercial water supplies and you're well aware of that. The rest of that post just reads like a press release of the day.

But the results are clear. Water quality is no better overall (as validated by that EPA report above) despite 10 years of Irish Water. This was simply another FG-led privitisation scam that didn't work out on this occasion because they actually managed to annoy people so much that tens of thousands marched in protest, and even more just refused to engage with the new shell company.

Don't bother replying. I've heard it all or can predict it all already.

Is anyone on board with me in thinking Uisce Eireann are unfortunate to be taking over historically badly managed water systems and treatment plants from years and years of lazy local authorities (county and city councils)?

… ah common conservative tactic, underfund, even defund critical services, to allow them to a serious level of disrepair, aiding the process towards future privatisation, we re watching it all play out across the pond with thames water……

Water quality is better since Irish Water was created

yes I agree

The creation of Irish Water was driven because of the crash. No matter which party was in government it would have been created. Again I refer to my previous about I don't vote for FG but Im not stupid enough to blame them for something they had little control over.

"Don't bother replying" because I am happy in my own echo chamber. 😂

The councils running it was a disaster, absolute disaster. The people complaining about Irish water never had to deal with it so have no idea.

Uisce Eireann will remain a state owned, they have only completed the full detachment from Ervia etc.

Ireland will continue to run for years, then it will all turn into a big f**king mess and our water system will be terrible. Then everyone will come out crying "why didn't they tell us?" "why didn't we invest in our water system?" etc etc etc

At this stage the plan is to push more water into Dublin because it is cheaper than fixing the actual issues

People seem to forget that the whole concept of Irish Water came from the post crash bailout agreed by FF and the EU, IMF etc.

Domestic water charges were to be introduced as part of the process and Irish Water would be the vehicle for these charges.

FF and the Troika agreed this while the 2007-2011 FF/Green Party government was in power.

And when FG came to power in 2011 they continued with what was agreed as part of the bailout.

Then in the 2016 general election when FF were struggling in the polls FF decided they were against the very water charges they agreed to implement.

The public responded in kind and gave them a huge boost at the polls and as a result FG formed a minority government with the support of FF and water charges were binned.

About 1/6th of revenue.

Daft remark. Irish Water took over the clapped-out Local Authority water systems. Not a matter of conservatism , just a matter of the non-achieving, culture of neglect that pervades local government in Ireland.

And the main reason why Irih Water need such a huge subvention is that the far Left in Irish politics sabotaged water charges. Irish Water in its present guise was never an "FFG" project; it's a product of the free-lunch mentality of so many Irish politicians, especially on the Left

Regardless of how/why it was setup and if FG intended to privatise it, Irish Water seems to be doing an OK job at the moment. Before Irish Water there had been decades of shambolic underinvestment with 31 local authorities doing their own thing. Treatment plants close to each other but because they were in different counties, no pooling of resources, caretakers, engineers etc. inefficiencies in terms of procurement, admin and everything else.

Anyway, most people don't think about water, its a boring topic. Where does water come from? The tap. Where does my sh*te go? The toilet. End of conversation - unless you want to impose a usage charge.

The posts on here about the lack of improvement in water quality are not really fair to Irish Water. Irish Water wastewater plants are sources of pollution but as said they are upgrading them and it is generally accepted that agriculture is the most significant source of water pollution.

Other sources include domestic septic tanks. Improving water quality means enforcing water quality legislation, carrying out inspections, prosecuting polluters etc which is the responsibility of the EPA and County Councils and is labour intensive work. AFAIK the EPA has prosecuted Irish Water on a few occasions. If anyone wants to understand more why water quality is not improving, ask what the county councils are doing (or not doing due to gross under resourcing and probably politics) on agricultural and septic tank pollution. On the septic tanks they have a specific (small) number of inspections that they have to do each year and some don't even manage that. At the rate they are going, it would take over 250 years to inspect every domestic system in the country

https://www.epa.ie/news-releases/news-releases-2024/failure-to-fix-faulty-septic-tanks-is-a-risk-to-human-health-and-the-environment-and-cant-continue-says-epa.php

Ah now the cronyism around how contracts were awarded was something else in the early days of IW. REDACTEDs Siteserv initial sale, debt writedown and then the contract award for IW meter installations was scandalous. That was the lightning rod that lead to water charge protests gaining traction.

Many revisionists like to paint it as only scroungers protesting about not wanting to pay, in reality it was a broad spectrum of people protesting for a variety of reasons - the biggest being how IW was a vessel for govt to funnel money to REDACTED and other colourful characters.

it seems you don’t know how they work

Id say im not in the minority.

Whether or not there was a "conspiracy" or a plan to privatise Irish Water, that has long gone out the window. No sane investor would touch it. What real evidence to you have that privatisation is on anyone's agenda?