Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

If the opinion polls in the next few days and weeks start reflecting the outcome of last nights debate then Biden will be seriously damaging the country by persisting with his bid. A lot of damage has already been done. But the republican candidate is infinitely more damaged. This election can be won with a different younger vigorous candidate. No question. Last night was a win for Trump but most definitely not yet game set and match. Trump’s elation would have been off the scale if this happened in September/october. They know it’s not over yet. There is time for the democrats to rescue this situation . The question is are they capable of it.

A lot of people will watch trump just for the entertainment factor but he has an incredible ability to say whatever he wants and people will believe him

It's not my place to say whether Biden is senile or not, nor do I think it's the place of anyone, really, outside of a doctor who gets to assess him up close, but that perception is now out there more than ever. If the debates were supposed to be the thing that the whole of America was watching, or enough of the electorate to make a real difference, then he's toast. The only thing that might save him is if Trump gets convicted on one of the larger charges currently levelled against him, but that's not really a way to win an election that would give anyone hope for the future. One's electability should really about their own qualities, not how terrible the electoral opponent is.

Biden sounded considerably healthier, just in his tone of voice, at the subsequent rally he did, but if only a fraction of the debate audience sees that and takes notice, it's not really going to make much of a difference.

If Trump has dementia, then he's figured out, whether by accident or design, how to distract from it with a smokescreen of being known for saying generally mad things or that he just riffs. If he is afflicted, he'd have to do something so out of the ordinary for him that conservative American news media would pick up on the story and run with it, but they'll do whatever it takes to keep Trump's base watching by saying little to nothing against the god-king of the American right wing. Whatever Trump could do to make the condition undeniable even to his most ardent MAGA-ites would have to be a truly spectacular display of senility.

If, or when, Trump gets into power, you should be made remember these words.

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(Psssst! It's called a cult)

most people believe confident liars, it’s why psychopaths are so effective/dangerous, they have a bid advantage over normal people…..lie constantly/no empathy

The New York times editorial board have put out a piece calling on him to step aside. When the nyt are saying this, it's pretty serious

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4747052-ny-times-editorial-board-biden-drop-out/

The DNC trying to take us all for fools.

It's over for Joe. You don't recover from something like that no matter how many teleprompters and script writers you engage. He'd a good run and his people hid him away long enough to get this far but eventually you just can't hide from what's happening to him anymore.

The hardcore Biden fans are just as deluded as the hardcore Trump fans

Eh. I feel if someone can come back from being a rapist there is little you can do in American politics to truly bury yourself in one go.

I don't think Biden has what you would call hardcore supporters. It's just the opposing choice is so horrific, they will go all in for him come November. Although the undecideds have a much harder choice now than before the debate.

The DNC should've told him 12 months ago, he wasn't going to be the candidate. But they should also have had a new batch of candidates ready to roll 12 months before that. It's appalling that the only person they considered strong enough within the entire party was a man in his 80s. I think there are people who could and should have stepped forward, such as Gavin Newsome, but didn't so they could have a clearer/ easier run in '28. Which I think is cowardice of the highest order. "Ask not what your country can do for you.."

Flood the zone.

Trump does so many bad things that no one of them really sticks or stands out. It all becomes one big grey cloud of noise in the minds of the public. Nothing hangs around in the news cycle long enough for the public to remember it.

Joe Biden tries to keep it so clean and uncontroversial that when he walks out to a debate where he sounds like he's dying and looks like he doesn't know where he is, it's going to be all anyone talks about when it comes to his campaign.

It really seems like the Democrats are doing all they can to lose the November election.