Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Well then it will unfortunately be Trump after Biden's showing in the debate. The man could hardly put two coherent words together.

The first of the post-debate polls are out. The morning consult poll, which is considered one of the more credible ones, has Biden up one - moving to a one point lead. 538 has him increasing his lead too.

Early days of course, but it would take a significant swing away from Biden in the coming weeks polls for talks of him being replaced to become more than just talk.

Agreed - the period November 2020 - June 2024 will of course go down in the history books as a truly blissful time, and far more uneventful than the prior 4 years.

I certainly can't remember anything unusual or bad happening.

Poor Biden.

In fairness if you actually listened to Trump and fact checked him he comes across as a mental patient who can't tell fact from fiction crossed with a criminal who will tell any lie just to get out of jail….. which he actually is.

Trump is no more coherent but he shouts, finishes sentences filled with lies and really isn't all that articulate.

I'd rather Biden "sleepy Joe" than Trump.

CNN should have fact checked Trumps claims … that is the one thing that could have helped Biden. It's like they handed it to Trump although I know Biden's performance was poor.

Back to Biden. What the hell were his team thinking? It's elder abuse.

There is a theory that his team pushed for it so soon in the year to demonstrate that he is not ready and the Democrats have time to substitute someone else in. It's a lousy thing to do but maybe if Biden wouldn't willingly step down they pushed him.

Trump is going to take at least 2 blue states in the coming election.

Inflation, Border Crisis, weak foreign policy, printing money to give to Ukraine & Israel, crime at an all time high…very good reasons indeed!!

Oh really, so has Trump made firm declarations he won't be supporting e.g. Israel or printing money?

Trump had his stooges in Congress blocking proposals to tighten up border.

Republicans just using it as a political football, zero regard for actually trying to sort the issue.

Weak foreign policy, you mean like he should be using foreign policy like Trump did, when he tried to get Ukraine to dig up dirt? That wasn't "weak"?

So nope, not very good reasons at all. Just lame MAGA slogans, backed up by absolutely nothing.

Biden is doing his best with the mess Trump left, and on all the points you list, there is zero evidence Trump's policies would be any better or effective. Or indeed, that Trump actually has a policy, or knows what one is.

This is self discrediting nonsense.

When I said Biden was a senile mess a few months ago I was accused of defending rape and loving Trump. The best thing that can happen for Trump is to run against Biden. Against some who isn't clearly mentally incapable Trump would be done. Even now we have people in this thread trying to claim Biden is in better physical and mental shape than Trump, we get it you hate Trump but only a fool would think Biden is still capable of being president.

Plenty of reasons to vote for Trump, he is going to take at least 2 blue states easily

Why are you bringing facts to a Trump debate??? /S

Interesting

Yet inflation was kept in check under Trumps presidency. The Russian State is far from bankrupt. Crime is at record levels with major stores closing down due to rampant invasions by criminals who will only get a slap on the wrist. Migrant Crisis in American cities that is turning minorities against the Dem's. Biden looked and is weak while Trump looked and is strong, that's what the voters saw in the debate!!

The tax cuts kicked off the inflation. The economy was doing well - thanks to Obama. Trump overheated it. If you are concerned about inflation, you don't go rolling out tax cuts at a time like that.

Says it all about your understanding of economics.

Trump has shown zero capability to handle any of these things. Well, that is if you don't agree with allowing Putin to win in Ukraine and inflation to be 'resolved' through the granting of taxbreaks to profiteering industries.

This isn't like 8 years ago where we can claim ignorance as to Trump's ability and motives. He failed utterly in terms of crisis management during Covid. His foreign policy was just 'be beligerent'. He literally enforced the Whip on House Republicans to prevent a border bill being passed, a sure sign that it was likely going to be somewhat effective.

I said a couple of days ago that Biden has been an excellent President FOR the US and I stand by that. I said last September he was likely the best President of my lifetime of paying attention to their performances (His disgraceful attitude to Palestinians has changed that) but as I've just said 'FOR' the US, he has been as good as we've seen no? Signature Covid recovery bills, somewhat positive steps towards climate action, CHIPS and science acts, Infrastructure Investment, freeing of Student Debt etc.

Its incredibly frustrating that we've almost lost entirely the practice of objective analysis and reporting. The media certainly has, for a long time. I reckon future generations will look back on this period with humour at how manipulated everything has become. Biden is absolutely old, and doddery and so on and so on. But so too is Trump, ffs, he's been bleating about a cognitive test for 4 years now which is in itself a sign of how incompetent he is that he thinks passing one is a badge of honour. His latest comments on this now include getting the name of the Dr involved (who is now a sitting congressman) wrong. By all means judge Biden, but acknowledge that there's two people in this race, and neither is at the heights of their powers.

Also, can we stop with this BS of statements like 'crime is at an all time high' without some sort of objective reference.

10 seconds on Google brought me this and if anything has only dropped since Biden came in to office from where it was the day Trump left (leaving aside the direct influence, or lack of, that a President has on national crime statistics).

No it won't. But while Biden's hands are tied by AMERICAN foreign policy with regards to Israel, what the other guy would do is much worse.

And that shouldnt be forgotten.

How the hell can anyone say that Trump is cognitively worse than Biden is insane…. Trump was sharp & composed the other night.