Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

A profound mental impairment - a tad over-emotive label to use on the sitting US president?

It seems to me, on looking back over the behaviour of both the 45th and 46th presidents, both in and out of that office, the present one seems to have behaved in a more adult way in performing the jobs he was tasked with.

In any case, the decision has not been made yet by the electorate at large on whether they prefer the 45th over the 46th in the upcoming election. The polls are not a guarantee on the outcome, just people looking at graphs and making guesstimates.

No. He is no longer able for the job. When you can't talk coherently without autocue or answer questions because of the depth of cognitive decline that's a profound mental impairment.

He is probably not able to drive safely, live independently. If he was someone's parent, it would be time to look at putting him in a nursing home.

Comparing him to anyone else does not change that. If Trump never existed it still wouldn't change that Biden is no longer in full faculty.

One snag with this is that its only pertinent to the Biden V Trump re-election race, and not Biden V anyone else. Trump has had recent issues with the device feeding him his lines as well. making it appear he has speech-reading problems.

Your second Para may be taking a leap in the dark; making presuppositions about Bidens mental capacity. Are you suggesting that Biden should be sidelined via the clause in the constitution allowing for the promotion of the V/P into the job?

Biden certainly hasn't the mental capacity to do the job and more importantly, unlike Reagan, isn't at an early stage where it can be covered up or bluffed through.

I'm saying he is not fit for the job and is not far off round the clock supervision.

Joe's mind is gone and that's all there is

I disagree. I do think his sharpness in terms of responding quick on the fly is less than what it was.

But his mind still seems more than up to doing the job, it's the communication that is his issue.

But the communication demand is something that while important, could be completed in a format that isn't as 'aggressive' as debates are. Not saying debates shouldn't happen, just that they in themselves are not a determining factor in ones ability to perform as a President.

Why would Trump or the GOP want Biden gone?

It's going to be very easy for Trump and Biden may deliver a congressional majority for the Republicans as well.

Joe is just a figure head at this stage, same as Reagan was in the last few months but it seems that Joe's decline is much more advanced than Reagan in office.

I hope Biden remains as the candidate and in office.

Joe isn't in charge at this stage. He isn't in charge of his own life. What can he do in the next few months?

Senility develops over years, his doctors would have been aware as such probably in 2020 that it was starting to develop.

Such is life .

In an ideal world Trump would have had a heart attack last year and the batton passed on. A fatal one for all I care.

I'm not fan of the mess that the Democrats have become and i certainly want them out .

Given your position on Biden, So do you.

The only question in the Democrat party now is whether it is possible to get Joe out.

I can't think of any candidate in any election that imploded so profoundly and so visibly.

Bobby Kennedy had a worse run up to being declared Democrat Presidential candidate, just.

Your second proposition would have been manna from heaven for Trump all those 4 years ago when he originally disputed who actually won the presidency; the GOP could have had a field day in court "Chief Justice, it was the doctors, they hid the truth, even when you were swearing Joe into office".

It wouldn't have mattered and i don't blame Joe for driving on.

Do you honestly believe that Biden is not profoundly compromised, he is manna from heaven now for the Republicans.

It's also looking like he is going to fight to remain the candidate, which is nothing short of incredible.

Ref your question, Compromised: NO. I think that Joe, along with having the strain of the tasks and duties of the presidency to perform and make decisions on - "the buck stops here" - also has the cares of a father for a son facing trial for unlawful possession of firearms charges and drug use on his shoulders. Like Trump, he's not a quitter.

There is a difference in their character and that is that I see in Biden the character I've outlined above, some-one with acumen I'd imagine I could buy a car from with a degree of faith in the warranty and life of the car. I've have absolutely no such faith in the business attitude of Trump. I'd expect him to try sell me a ten year old model of a Fiat Uno when I'd expressed an interest in a 6-month old Mercedes and laid the cash out on the counter-top to buy the Mercedes.

Biden has been around the US political scene with a known way amongst his compatriots in both parties over the years on the craft of political deal-making.

Trump is the complete opposite, brash, cold and totally demanding of loyalty from anyone he meets in the US. I see him as a malign influence on the US. Every other political or official person who've had the duty of dealing with Trump since 2014 has been labelled by Trump as crooked or disloyal or both publicly and privately. He probably has the honour of having fired more senior federal administration officers than any other US President in his 4 years in the job. That tallies in with his boasting that he's done more than any other president much better and more often: MAGA.

The question remaining for the US voters in the presidential-race in Nov is: which candidate would you trust enough to buy into what he's saying?

Re Joe's death, really - Has no one told him?

Coincidentally, more than half of Democrat registered voters think Trump should step down as well.

Trump destroys Biden, this is 2016 all over again and the big orange rapist felon will be back in the white house. Dems only have themselves to blame. Biden was terrible. It's over.

It's obvious, now that CNN has [presumably] done an autopsy on it's running of the first debate, that tall high-backed chairs should be a MUST for the two elderly men concerned, if the other debates are to go ahead. I don't know if tele-prompters will be allowed back so that the debaters can keep to their own scripts and still be challenged by the O/P when his turn comes.

I'd be surprised if there is no fallback position for CNN to cover the next two debates. The secret to success is already there as CNN have preventive measures [time slots and cut-off switches] in place to stop unscheduled interruptions by either side.

Been saying that since the debate day. Plus he's got tonnes of fodder for commercials, too.