Kilkenny GAA Thread

Ha, was just thinking the same. Going to be like the the Hoganstand forum 15 years ago in here.

Baffles me…. One poster says something stupid about rival county, cue several rival counties posters coming back with several whataboutery posts and the whole thread descends into childish jibes at each other spoiling the thread for everyone else.

Makes it all the sweeter seeing posts from bitter Kilkenny fans like this. You would swear cody was an angel on the sideline, always trying to intimidate, remember poor marty 😁, calling refs decisions "criminal". Have you seen shefflin on the sideline ever? Up and down like a jack hammer in refs ear constantly. Tipp got 2 harsh reds and other questionable decisions against them, wtf do you expect the tipp management to just sit down and take it, ill take our management over yere stooges on the line anyway. Not aimed at some of the genuine posters here either, wasnt much goading from tipp fans on here or on tipp thread but when i read shite like that post, hard not to respond.

There is angel brian, 2 minutes to find them.

it’s not the individual performance that’s the problem though, they were sent out with clear no game plan, not clear what they work on in training. Management may as well have stayed at home

II wonder did Bergin even go in to talk to the team at HT, FT or at the break in ET?

Maybe he was watching the Galway Dublin game on his phone?

How a minor team could be sent out with such little direction or shape is mind boggling.

And this is his third term? Very very poor.

Well Done Tipp. They were incredible and far superior on all fronts.

Fact

Well who would the blame lie with, the management in this case is fully responsible for yesterday’s defeat they held all the aces and totally f….d it up absolutely no excuses.some people gave out about Woodlock but I would have loved him in our corner.

Why would management go anywhere. Got to all ireland final. Considering the county board didn't move them on after 2 terrible years, hardly going to move them on after getting to the all ireland and a fair chunk of the team underage next year.

The Tipp-Kilkenny rivalry since the 2009 AI has been fantastic for hurling - a game in decline. I recall both sets of fans united in applauding the teams after the 2014 classic drawn game. Limerick and Clare are adding to that today. Hopefully, Offaly, Galway, Cork, Waterford, etc. continue to get better.

Yesterday and over the last few weeks we have had the privilege of seeing 15-19 year olds from many counties display the finer skills of this beautiful game. u17 is thankfully without the physicality, s & c of the u20 and senior teams. We get to see the finer qualities of first touch, great blocks & hooks, insightful passes, solo runs etc. without some big fella mauling the players and the scene.

Kilkenny's greatest strength is the quality of club teams and teachers devotion to promoting the skills. As a former Kk underage and minor winner with with St. John's and OLG, I appreciated the coaches and refs of our time outlawing rough play. That has fed a lot of high quality players into the clubs who do not want the injuries we can see the senior players having to contend with for 60+ years of life after retiring. Over the past 2 years we are seeing senior talent developed by the clubs as one of our best sources of players to match the expensive academy players from Limerick, etc, i.e., Tom Phelan, Jordan Molloy, David Fogarty, Eoin Wall to name a few.

The big lesson for the Kilkenny u17s is that scoring efficiency from midfield was not great in AI games given 35+ wides in 2 games; probably the wind; most likely the biggest crowds (x 4) they have seen in their careers to date. Tipp were very alert yesterday; another Munster sized crowd pumping them up; primed for going into the Lions Den; benefitting from Woodlock's own style of non-stop free form running; great Tipp support. Kilkenny were very nervous throughout; unlike the Dublin and Clare games they were leaden footed and unable to get to breaking ball even with a few yards head start; with the crowd baying for a Kilkenny red card, tackles were understandably half hearted; the ref & linesmen were trying hard to be fair to Tipp to make up for the 2 reds. I am concerned that Dollard picked up 2 head injuries against both Clare and Tipp. Dollard is a very good player and needs guidance on avoiding such injuries; a bit of cop on by coaches and trainers will help. I hope the young Tipp lad and the Tipp sideline look back at the incident and regret being so pumped up that player safety took a back seat on a 16 year old opponent.

Of course I wasn't happy, you somehow equate that performance with the way our seniors play. I think there has been significant improvement in how our senior team have adapted their game this year. Last night was incredibly difficult for the young lads . They didn't handle it well and will learn from it. The team management have to accept they could have done better We as supporters also need to up our game . Outnumbered and allowed Tipperary take over our home ground. It's been like that for years now and I think our teams deserve better.

when the pressure is at senior, one mistake and they revert to long ball. Will know soon enough. Hard to read much into some of the games lately the opposition were so poor. Leinster final was barely a training session. Hopefully there is real improvement.
When was the last championship game of significance that we weren’t outnumbered?

Completely agree we’re often lauded as the home of hurling it’s like a religion we eat sleep and drink hurling and other such remarks but it’s definetly not shown in how our county teams are supported

You would be sick of going to games and the team barely getting a clap coming onto the field and the opposition fans blowing roof off the stand when they come onto the field

Again last night it was very noticeable the difference in support for each team

I remember going to league games 10-12 years ago in nowlan park on **** wet days and every hook block and score would take the roof of the stand the supporters really got behind the team even when things were bad

the league has had some fall since then. Were some great games around that period. There are just too many games now in a very short space of time, not surprising numbers are down. Doesn’t help we’re not winning either and expectations are low.
I haven’t seen any upper deck tickets on sale for the Clare match yet, not looking like it’ll be a great crowd either unless the tickets are with clubs

I have been harping on about the KK support for a while now. The county board certainly do not help themselves, they could have brought in juveniles from all the clubs but failed to do so. They never put flags up to create an atmosphere. I thought the support was 50/50 but they got behind there team and we didn’t.I think the co board are going from one fiasco to another and will seriously have to look at themselves. On the management I think they will certainly have to be replaced and I think anyone that has ambitions in management would love a chance to train these youngsters as they have huge potential. I would ask Henry to train them a man that knows his stuff and was a winner through and through, never mind Galway Jesus Christ couldn’t manage Galway . And Thomastown just fucked up. Mark Aylward and Gorta were also mentioned they won the U19 competition. Send in a few names and we’ll debate it .

Just out of curiosity lads, how would some of yee set up from half time onwards knowing tipp would play with spare defender (7 backs), 3 across midfield and 2 frwds for an out ball.

What would the instruction have been, hit it long the ball long and direct to McDermott on edge of square with spare defender close enough to cover breaks? try long range shots from middle of the park? try run the ball through a packed defence?