USA 2024 presidential election

He clearly likes Whitmer as he asked her to be VP in 2020 and she is heading up the re-election bid. I wouldn't be shocked if he went with her.

However I also would not be shocked if he stays on unless his polling crashes either.

Yeah seeing very strong public statements of support from Obama, Clintons and the power players in the Dem party they are clearly going to back him whether we like it or not.

Its easy to forget if he does not want to go their is not much they can do really and ultimately they don't have a slam dunk of a replacement. Newsom may appeal to donors but he is untested, Whitmer would be tempting from a geographical pov but she is nobody nationally ,,,and the optics of drafting in a white person to step over Harris would be something they would be very wary of.

Harris the VP is she that much more likely to beat Trump? and I don't think Michelle Obama is a runner no matter what betting money says.

The thing about Gavan Newsom that I can't get over is that he used be married to Don Jr's girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle. She's an absolute weapon.

Not only does it show terrible judgement on his behalf but she also likely has a lot of dirt on him.

The Dems take DEI seriously, the idea of a white dude jumping the line ahead of Harris is no bueno, what would the Dems even stand for if they let this happen?

Harris tanked with black males though

No, it's what you right wingers THINK Democrats want. Jaysis, always putting words in others mouths.

Find me a single poll that says Dems want Harris to run if Biden withdraws from the race.

You're predicting an outcome based on your right wing informed assumptions of what the Democrats will do.

Why should I agree that the Democrats should put up a weak candidate that Trump will trounce? I want the Republicans and Trump to lose. Project 2025 is far too important to defeat.

you are just ignoring realities on the ground , you could argue you wish it was different but your starting point should be think like Democrats

no its not, the fact that some outcomes are funny doesnt mean I cant. Thinking like a democrat highlight the difference between how Republicans and Democrats think, at a basic level Republicans think in system terms, Democrats think in outome terms but with the added curve ball that human nature and how people act is often ignored.

"the border" is a great example, in a Republican mind its all rules to be obeyed something is legal/illegal /consequences, Democrats are different

This is precisely what I mean. You know nothing if you bring the border to this debate. There was a bipartisan bill there, that Republicans were happier with than Democrats were. It was ready to be made law and the Border Patrol Union supported it and wanted it signed and passed, (they categorically DO NOT support Biden in any way, shape or form) yet Republicans refused to sign and pass it as it would give Biden "a win".

Like I said,land stand by, you cannot conceive, imagine or picture how Democrats think. It's an impossibility. Most Republicans can't even think how Republicans are meant to think. This bipartisan border bill being a perfect example. You should all be furious with the party that they refused to sign the bill in case it gave Biden a win, but no, like cowed sheep, you all think "Dear Leader" must know best.

Brainwashed is absolutely the correct term to use for any MAGA believer.