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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Ah jaysus find me one refugee who got an apartment last ten years. This guy from Ghana doesn't know what he is talking about



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,035 ✭✭✭Augme


    The European Parliament has, and will have a huge say on migration. Yet, no anti-immigration candidates had succes. The most right that did have success was independent Ireland and they won one seat out of the 14. Your clutching at straws if you think the GE will produce anything significantly different to the locals and Europeans



  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭muzakfan


    It doesn't matter if true or not though does it? It clearly shows the sentiment among those landing here, and moreover the damage one Roderic O'Connors public tweets have done.

    We need to very publicly appear to be a cold unwelcoming place to such arrivals. Again, it isn't really the substance that is important but rather the image that is portrayed internationally.

    It's abundantly clear the actions and words of very weak senior politicians in this state spread like wildfire over social media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,037 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    All of the talk that immigration / refugees would dominate the local and European elections and that it would be the No.1 thing in people's minds when they cast their vote turned out to be hot air. It looks like it was a major issue for less than 5% of the Irish electorate.

    A similar scenario is being played out in the UK general election - Tories and their numerous press pals are trying to make immigration and 'the boats' the main part of their manifesto, but the electorate are having none of it and the party is going to be annihilated on Thursday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭baldbear


    I see another tent set up near Ranelagh.

    A mechanic from Ghana, the 34-year-old said he had to "run for his life" on a "dangerous" journey through Libya, Italy, France and Belfast, arriving in Dublin over a week ago.

    He heard about the encampment on social media.

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    "IPAS gave me a voucher when I arrived and said they were looking for an apartment for me. So, we just have to live on the street until we get a place," he said. Ha ha IPAs told him they are looking for an apartment?

    No wonder more will follow with reports like this.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    Free apartments for the lads courtesy of.paddy meanwhile Irish live in their parents box rooms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    If it's not an election issue as you say, why is Keir Starmer talking about lowering migration?

    If anyone in Ireland proposed what Keir Starmer said, they would be branded as "far-right".



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Hope he at least paid for the trip….people up and down the country pay good money for kind of jaunt this time of year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    Jesus wept, you really have jumped the shark haven't you. Best of luck with that shite, but be prepared to be perpetually disappointed though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Who are " our ruling class " , ?

    Sounds like a bit of hysteria there .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    How about learning from that kickback in the UK as you call it ?

    A lot of kickback against Brexit alright bht not the way you reference it ! Around 65% of Britons polled say they regret Brexit and that it has been bad for their economy .

    Certainly you remind us that being very careful who you listen to and vote for is extremely important , and that jingoism ispopulism and longterm goals and plans should be thought through carefully before elections .

    Thanks furze ;)



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    I think the electorate is very volatile at the moment. Look at SF 2019 - 24.

    The electorate could easily swing behind independent Ireland as not being the worst.

    Opinion polls are currently discredited. They undershot FF by about 5% and over shot SF by 8%.

    The current government will probably be reelected.

    The posters here ain't representatiive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    You're right re the latter - mostly the people who will write here are those who feel strongly about these changes and those who think all is fine with current policies. In between you've a large swathe of opinion that ranges from those benefiting from these policies to those with complete indifference to those quietly resenting what they see.

    But there is no doubt at all that levels of concern are rising across Europe - we are not unique. What we are at the moment is the soft touch, somewhat deluded and used to being protected by our position on the western seaboard. That advantage has gone with the ease of international travel, so called called obligations and of course the ease of sharing information on social media across the world.



  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    Paddy is the laughing stock of Europe with what refugees get ,no wonder they all head here.

    Post edited by Ozvaldo on


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,435 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    There's an awful lot of assumptions that the local elections are a significant bellwether for the General Election. It wasn't the case in 2019 and I wouldn't bet on it again in 2024. People vote for people they know in local elections, usually people who are good at sorting out the issues councillors sort out. "He helped me with something", "she got a pothole fixed" etc.

    I would wager not many people decided who to vote in the local elections based on immigration policy, given that the councillors have no power in the world to inform such policy decisions.

    There was strong protest votes in the LE in some areas which may translate into bigger protest votes in the GE given the nature of the election itself.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    There is a floating vote of about 10%out there that could be crucial. A lot of them are disillusioned SF supporters. At the moment they are drifting right and to independents but who knows in a GE.

    Sometimes politicians spend too much time chasing these voters. They jump on every available band wagon to get their attention. But given the bi polar nature of the floating voter this can be a pointless task



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,037 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    But the local election results pretty much tied in with recent opinion polling - big fall in support for SF and the far right parties who had been struggling in the polls also bombed in the actual elections.

    The major surge for SF in GE 2020 was something of an outlier and wasn't really predicted by anyone, not even by SF themselves.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,520 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I heard there's 5 new countries going to be added, is it just those 3 or are expecting more?

    I can never understand how the hell Nigeria isnt the top of the list to be named a safe country ffs



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,098 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    I thought Nigeria was already on the safe list.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Safe nations me bollix. We are allowing people who skip over several safe nations and then arrive in Ireland claiming they are fleeing for their lives.

    What the **** is the problem with going next door? The country next door



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,520 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Because they see Ireland as a soft touch. All these illegals are part of whatsapp groups and they're all communicating with each other with how soft Ireland is



  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭LetticebCivil


    They come here for the sunny climate and the free stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,568 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Is it wrong to take pleasure with the cold weather this summer…………………. its no country for cold men 😙

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Seen a lone ranger park his tent down by Crofton road Dun Laoghaire in front of a hotel, think he has the right idea nice view of the yachts in the bay 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Are you ignoring the changing climate across Europe? As seen currently in France. Why do you think these voters are turning from the centrist position towards Le Pen etc? Listen to them - dissatisfaction with housing, public services and immigration - all tied together and rolled into one.

    The all right jacks will carry on as before here but there's a wave of public opinion gathering against the government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭prunudo


    We are a soft touch, that there is no denying.

    Everything that has happened and is happening in European countries will happen here. Within 5 years this country will be unrecognisable, and the people who called those that questioned asylum policy, Far right, will be complaining why nothing was done and why the politicians let it happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Every country should be on the safe list by default. If the circumstances change, then by all means we should review it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    It’s ironic, by failing to make moderate but timely measures for fear of being labelled “far right” by the media and student politics types on twitter, they’re fuelling the far right more than anything



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