Donald Trump the Megathread part II - threadbans and mod warnings in OP

I’d love to know the real Golden Shower story in a Moscow hotel 😷😷

It was an outlandish story to come from no-where

You missed half of it.

I remember noting back in the middle of May that there was no upside for Biden agreeing to a debate with Trump. And here we are. If they don't get Newsom involved, they're fupped for 2024.

MSNBC are trying to spin away from the debate debacle with Lawrence O'Donnell saying it was fine because the ratings for the debate were so low that hardly anyone saw it, so it's not that big a deal.

A pathetically weak attempt to downplay the seriousness of Biden's decline, and also comes off as incredibly out of touch with the modern world whereby clips of Biden looking frail and confused will be lighting up Tiktok and Twitter for weeks to come, if not months. Everybody may not have seen the whole debate, but many will have seen Biden struggling to finish points, looking out of it and missing open goals on the ridiculous lies which Trump tells.

Absolutely. After the comical ruling about bribes gratuities now being legal, I won't be surprised about anything from them.

If that's their only hope, then they're well and truly fúcked, because there is no way that's going to work. The clips of Biden looking senile are going to be doing the rounds all over social media regardless of what the Biden campaign do. In that way, doing/saying nothing is a worse strategy because it gives MAGA trolls huge control of the narrative. Not that they need to do much spinning in this case. The reality of the situation is fairly plain.

This is a zero sum game, as far as I can see. No good for the Biden campaign to be able to say, "Well, we lost the election, but I'll tell you what, we did some job of managing Biden's media appearances in those last few months…"

Not that it even matters. As I've said, they have little to no way of controlling how much hay the Trump campaign will be making hay of Biden's senile appearance at the debate by flooding social media with clips of it. They can give MSNBC a script to use, but it's not going to be enough. The ratings for that debate may have been low as far as debate ratings go, but it's still a hell of a lot more viewers than are going to be watching whatever feeble damage control the Biden campaign can muster on MSNBC and CNN et al in the coming months if they decide to stick with Biden.

Regardless of if Biden should even be there because he is too old and cognitively dodgy, the other guy is the same, but also a criminal and abuser. Wants to take all the money and give it to the rich because he thinks people like him deserve it. Does not care one bit about the average American and super dangerous for the rest of the world.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/1dsamtw/the_presidential_debates/

No, I do have an issue however with two Justices, who have received $4,780,720 and $170,095 in "gratuities", not recusing themselves from this case. I also have an issue the conservative members of the court denying the meaning of the word "reward".

…because "rewarded" also encompasses gratuities.

JACKSON, J., dissenting

"Dictionary definitions confirm what common sense tells
us about what it means to be rewarded. A “reward” is
“[t]hat which is given in return for good or evil done or received,” including “that which is offered or given for some
service or attainment.” Webster’s New International Dictionary 2136 (2d ed. 1957). The verb form of the word is no
different. To “reward” means “to . . . recompense.” Ibid.
(defining “to reward” as “[t]o make a return, or give a reward, to (a person) or for (a service, etc.); to requite; recompense; repay”). Both definitions thus encompass payment
in recognition of an action that an official has already taken
or committed to taking. And neither requires there to be
some beforehand agreement about that exchange, i.e., a
quid pro quo."

No, you're misrepresenting what Jackson actually stated…

"In short, §666(a)(1)(B) makes it a federal crime for state,
local, or tribal officials to corruptly solicit, accept, or agree
to accept certain payments in connection with business
worth $5,000 or more."

Given not just his age but also his unhealthy diet, it is astonishing that Trump recovered from Covid in 2020. It's also astonishing that his recovery didn't cause many voters to think, "Maybe Covid isn't as serious as it has been claimed to be".

Always suspected he never had Covid, he played the popularity PR game to show how tough he was, isn't he a germophobic anyway………unless he was ordering in from Maccy Ds.