"Green" policies are destroying this country

How has climate change killed anyone?

According to the folk on here, climate change is a big, overarching idea over significantly long time horizons. Weather on the other hand is what happens in the short intertemporal space where extreme events happen. Surely the folks being boiled alive or frozen solid or struck by lightning or washed away or blown off the edge of the known world etc are therefore casualties of adverse weather and not climate change?

We get mixed messages from these guys in fairness, when you have the greens saying you should drive to Europe instead of flying but take the bus instead of driving it can cause questions

Unintentionally Covid lockdown gave the world a taste for what life would be like with the Green dream of things like no air travel. Needless to say it is a hard sell.

The prime example given in the source UN blog had nothing to do with climate it was . . . . the 2004 tsumami. Demonstrating once more that "climate change" is simply a vehicle of convenience for different groups giving them a platform to virtue signal and push their agendas or schemes.

I remember the greens talking about global warming back a few years ago and how we would get more extreme weather events, well where are the more extreme weather events huh?

Ok so there was the beast from the east, hurricane Ophelia, the constant autumn storms, the freezing in winter, the coldest June on record, the warmest January on record, polar ice caps melting and gulf stream getting weaker. But could you in all honesty say these are extreme events or that they're happening more often?

More importantly what have the greens done in the past few years to mitigate against it?

A billionaire, Jeremy Grantham via his tax efficient foundation is the person underwriting weather attribution studies. I have outlined previously the activities of Friederike Otto and World Weather Attribution that is often cited after various weather events claiming said event using their computer model is caused by climate change. The goal is to put this "data" (sic) in front of a judge in the various lawfare actions the activists undertake against taxpayers.

All they are doing is confusing people. My elderly mother phoned me the other evening to tell me that there was a 30C heatwave on the way, it was on the evening news. I asked her who was saying that? George Lee, she replied. I would not worry about it says I, not going to happen, it's July and you have the heating on in the evening.

Essentially there are so many false claims that they have little credibility with the public. Those surveys we get are simply most people parroting the message and feeding the socially expected answer back to the agency gathering the details.

Do you know how NOAA make their sausage? Do pay attention to the y axis and the units and scales used in your links, question are you actually looking at. Do you know the margin of error in output you look at?

Why are you using temperature as a proxy to measure climate change?

Why did you pick 1982? Why did you not pick 1962 or 1942 or any another year for that matter?

Take a look at how NASA adjusts Valentia in their dataset, why does the past become cooler?

Homogenization adjustments . . . what's that?

I don't disagree with your analysis. Spot on about China and Asia, but surely the massive deforestation and habitat loss consequent on the increase in population in Africa (doubling every 20 years since 1950) has to have an impact on weather patterns?

Absolutely. Where vegetation and especially forests are removed it's essentially changing the T-Shirt of the area affected. To understand what I mean by that, the next sunny day there is where you live, go out in a white T-Shirt during the afternoon and give it 5 minutes. Come back in and change it for a black T-Shirt and repeat another 5 minuted. Feel warmer? I bet you do.

Vegetation is vital in warm and dry areas, in particular trees if the landscape can support that in those warm and dry areas. Surfaces which are thin on vegetation and are dry will reflect the sun's energy more into the lower atmosphere, thus rising it's temperature.

Ireland's hottest ever temperature of 33.3°C in 1887 - was the same year that Ireland had it's driest ever year. Kilkenny City where the temperature was recorded sits on very sandy soils (brilliant for drainage) and thus allowed this very warm temperature to be achieved.

Despite us experiencing a warmer climate, this temperature has not been since exceeded. Indeed, the 1800s turned up a few more 33+°c temperatures including another 33.3°C in Markree Castle, Sligo in June 1851 or the 33.4°C in Dublin back in 1876. These figures are generally not spoken about as Met Eireann has put 1880 onwards as the 'reliable' record of weather recording in Ireland.

if the machines had money in them expect a big digger to drive into them to take the money

Plus the insurance issues on the money and the additional cost to transport the money, fill the machine etc

Perhaps, but we can only work off of records that we have. Met Eireann note that the driest year was 1887 on their website with Glasnevin the station there noting Ireland's record driest year:

• Lowest annual total: 356.6mm at Glasnevin, Co Dublin in 1887

From: https://www.met.ie/climate/weather-extreme-records

Dry soils help increase temperatures near the surface as the sun's energy gets reflected as opposed to absorbed by the soil.

I know people like to find any reason to complain but seriously this is a new low

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It’s fairly simple why it’s a shop voucher, if you can’t work it out then it’s not my problem

If you are not able to work the machines, well then I suggest you keep all the bottles in a large bag and get someone to help

Which massive deforestation is that? Happy to read any links you have.

CO2 increase has led to increased vegetation in Africa.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229548696_Impacts_of_Climate_Change_on_the_Vegetation_of_Africa_an_Adaptive_Dynamic_Vegetation_Modelling_Approach

Both forest and cropland are increasing at the expense of shrubland, but overall vegetation coverage is increasing. Vapor pressure deficit measurements indicate some soil moisture deficits.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1470160X2201319X

Land degradation is negatively affected by demographic changes and slash-and-burn farming techniques. However, better management can increase crop yields. Crop yields in west Africa have continued to increase.

https://production-new-commonwealth-files.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/documents/Policy-brief-2_Land-Degradation_Final_09032020.pdf?VersionId=YY9IxFeMAXNuaz6U66Kr6muz_SMCIe6Y

There is a ton of academic literature, some of it mutually contradictory. Africa is a vast place, extending from above the northern tropic to below the southern one. Broad analyses of the whole continent tend to be simplistic. They also sometimes confuse climate change with human factors such as farming practices, irrigation, conflict, and more. It's likely that any negative effects of climate change could be more than offset by stable government and increased affluence. One irony is that such transformation is impossible without access to far more energy.

Is there not cause for concern for the mentality of some one who so eagerly sacrifices his own political career so that some one else can progress theirs biased solely on their sex rather than on their ability

Ed Miliband introduced the climate change act to the UK back in 2008. It more or less has unanimous agreement of main political parties (David Cameron, Teresa May & Nick Clegg also contributed), plus finance people in the city and the permanent government in Westminister, there is not even much difference between the main political parties on the subject.

The loss of energy intensive industries such as Port Talbot steelworks should have been the canary in the coalmine, giving early warning of general economic damage as the costs of climate policies are passed through from energy to all other costs in the economy. Cemex have been shutting cement manufacturing in the UK, thus more cement is imported. The UK equivalent to the CRU in Ireland is OFGEM, In 2010 Milliband neutered them and they no longer comment on climate policies that are driving up electricity costs for UK consumers with prices even rising during long periods of falling gas prices, as a result of increasing grid system inefficiency caused by unreliable generation.

The Tories promised the UK that Net Zero could be delivered at modest cost. The decarbonisation drive is now causing pain across both the UK & Irish economies, and policies such as mandatory electric cars and heat pumps are unpopular. As jobs are lost, and bills keep rising, it could soon get much, much worse. The Tories will be glad they handed the net zero time bomb over to the Labour Party. Keir Starmer has probably got his own problems balancing the Blair faction and the militant faction (Corbyn and Rayner) and probably has no idea the scale of the problems he has inherited, or that he sees the risks that Ed Miliband represents to his new administration since the center power based in London are mostly in agreement, all he has are yes men.

But we aren't slashing emissions. It's that part of the whole shambles that bugs me. Outsourcing it elsewhere is moving the problem (temporarily) just so it can be shown that we're doing great and pat ourselves on the back. When soon it will be a big kick in the hole that will be delivered

Well yes irregular weather events used to happen. I remember the 1987 storm for example. Then we had Ophelia in 2017, and I think most years since then we get a few orange or red wind warnings in the Autumn or winter.

The point isn't that the weather is irregular or dangerous, it's that it's happening more frequently and more vigorously because of the warming planet.

So the real reason is the new colour coded weather warnings and the increased reporting? Did the scientists get it wrong so? Fascinating

Storm Eustice was the last big big one in 2022, plenty of powerful ones in 2023 as well