Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

The polls have been wrong for years now. MAGA broke polling. Social media broke polling. Multiple election cycles MAGAs who shouted "Red Wave November" citing "polls" have been left eating lemons. The result is still yet to be determined. I can say with reasonable certainty what won't work, and that's parachuting in someone new, raises far too much hay (eg. why not Kamala Harris? a X+Kamala ticket? etc it will shatter the democratic coalition no matter what you do - which is precisely what MAGA etc. want to see, they want another 2016 like split between the hillary and bernie camps) there's a reason why MAGAs have been wishcasting for that outcome for - 4, 5 years now?

Lol I don't use delivery apps, I go get stuff myself because I'm not a lazy bastard and they are a rip off. It was capriottis, we don't have Publix here, but I wouldn't call that gourmet. A cheese steak and a "bobbie" if you must know. No extras but I did give a tip.

Sure, the polls could be wrong and have been , but that cuts both ways and also includes the possibility that the numbers are actually worse for Biden, not better. This is how it went in the 2020 election where Biden had some big leads that didn't actually materialise while results in other states were within a couple of points of the polls.

Whatever shortcomings that polling might have, you can be sure that political operatives aren't using divination to determine where to concentrate campaigning. They're using empirical methods to gauge the intentions of likely voters, ie polling.

Overall, the message of, "we have no other ideas than to sit tight and hope the polls are wrong" would be a pretty pathetic note to watch American democracy potentially die on.

In a sense, you're right about the debate not changing much because Biden trailed in the polls going into it and he will almost certainly trail in the polls on the other side of it.

What are he and his team going to do in order to right that situation?

If Biden drops out, his replacement will talk about solving the cost-of-living crisis, and the people here denying it exists will support that and argue that a Democrat can solve it better than Trump.

It’s hardly a surprise that his family want him to continue, and it’s not really the consensus on the Dem side overall, where there are calls for him to step aside.

For the Dems to meet their DEI goals they would need a black woman , they really should snap themselves out of their brain dead logic or they wont get a winner for 20 years , the Republicans seem to have a deeper bench

Oh stop talking bollocks you, would ya.

It's a genuine question being asked, not an opportunity for you to spout more shite.

I'd like to know which person is the one to replace Biden from a realistic POV. I'm not interested in more cheap shots from Trump fans.

Ye are beyond tedious at this stage.

if you cant accept the basic truth that the dems have their hands tied you are not seeing the full field

seams badly timed, the optics dont look good but I assume nobody reads it anyway

It seems fine. First lady appearing in a magazine in an election year. Marketing th first lady through a magazine largely read by women seems a good idea.

Certainly Biden has been down in the poles but this seems exactly what you want in that situation really. It also takes advantage of a big weakness in the Trump campaign which is that his wife obviously can't stand being near him and can't really counter this sort of campaigning directly to women from a woman close to the candidate.

I can't see an issue with the timing or optics.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/06/competing-narratives-on-real-wages-incomes-under-biden/

It's an interesting read. Two different timeframes giving different answers, one saying real wages are up and the other saying they're down.

But these things are more complicated than that.

Young people are graduating into a far more difficult job market.

Average pay is being boosted by trades and minimum wage increases. A lot of regular Americans working regular jobs are only seeing the price increases.

The basket of goods that inflation counts isn't reflective of everyone's everyday spending.

Inflation doesn't include house prices.

The average income now needed to buy a house has increased by 80% in the last four years.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/02/1242212997/housing-affordability-income-100000

You can argue about the statistics all you want but America feels worse off and that affects votes. The middle class is being squeezed.

It seems the 2 most mentioned potential candidates on Dem side are Newsome and Whitmer.

On GOP maybe Haley or Rubio?

Oh sweet lord....

what’s happening as well is new towns are being targeted as wfh bases with prices then in the area rapidly rising - well paid people are decamping from the big cities to the “pretty” towns away from those cities but doing so in their 100s and 1000s putting great pressure on house prices and resources in those areas