Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Another person to whom various material facts are explained and instead of considering them, retreats into tired tropes

I am a pro-Joe myself and would go for an old guy who needs a moment to think over someone Bonhoeffer warned the world about in 1941.

It's a choice between running Biden and losing for sure or else someone like Newsom who at least has a bit of relative youth.

Do people not realise what's at stake, here? If America goes as far as Trump and his backers want it to go down the rabbit hole of 'post-constitutionalism', one of the great pillars that holds up western liberal democracy collapses before our eyes, greatly weakening the ability of former allies to assert themselves on the world stage and giving great encouragement to similar actors in said countries.

Trump is a man who proudly posted a picture of himself scowling down a mugshot camera and later posting a word cloud about himself which featured, 'REVENGE' at the centre. He has an organised team behind him, using the ideas of the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025 as a basis of what is to be done in a second term, with a supreme court increasingly on his side and a plan to concentrate as much power in the office of president as possible.

Michael Whatley, RNC co-chair also had this to say about the election,

Whatley, who embraced the former president's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud, said that the RNC "will be focused like a laser on getting out the vote and protecting the ballot," saying that they "hired election integrity directors in battleground states." Those individuals, he said, are "already recruiting and training tens of thousands of volunteers to serve as poll judges workers and observers who will act as real-time monitors whenever votes are being cast and counted."

So, they'll be putting their thumb on the scale in places they can get away with it as well.

If Trump wins, there shouldn't be any hand wringing the day after, because apparently everybody is going into this eyes wide open, plotting a course directly for the iceberg.

speaking of timing when did this issue of vogue come out?

Tedious indeed.

The Democrats need someone who will hammer Trump and the Project 2025 **** relentlessly. Biden missed so many open goals in that debate. You really wonder about the DNC, not being aggressive enough here. They should be flooding the airwaves with excerpts from the manifesto and clips of the various ghouls outlaying their plans. With the SCOTUS decision yesterday, Biden should be making Judical reform one of his central platform pieces.

Its never been denied. The bombs the US provide with Biden's approval have killed 17,000 children with an average age of 5 years.

it’s been denied. Prove he is “as guilty as Bibi”

It’s a really lazy argument, that seems to try and water down Bibi’s own criminal culpability - But begin your mock trial.

I agree, but the problem is that the zone has been flooded, to borrow a phrase. I don't know if the message about Project 2025 would break through to enough Americans. It should still be shouted about from the rooftops, if only because of the principle.

Denial from you again. Who do you think supplies the bombs and weapons used to kill the Gazan kids?

I'd ideally like to first see polls before I comment but here goes.

It's my belief Biden will and should be the Democratic candidate in November. The US economy is doing relatively well. The Biden administration has handled things well generally from my perspective - Afghanistan withdrawal and the slow crawl Ukraine support aside. He is the incumbent and has already beaten trump. Has the administration properly supported Ukraine, what would be perceived as a war winning President would be in a good position today.

I did not watch the debate as I don't believe there was anything to gain debating a criminal and serial liar, plainly put I would have been against debating trump as it platformed further his tsunami of lies.

What has dismayed me is President Biden has a bad first ten minutes of a debate and some of his so-called supporters, more interested in their own ego's I would suggest, are ready to throw him overboard. I have been (un)fortunate enough to go up against powerful vested interested with a committed group of like minded people. You commit, you work hard, you sacrifice, you put your ego aside to support your groups success. If you must piss on your own guys shoes, and imo you shouldn't, it's best done in private.

The difference is, the other guys side lacks morals. Power and control at any cost is their prize. It should not be handed to them so easily.

I genuinely fear the place the world is headed to should trump be victorious in November. Today's problems will pale in comparison.

Did you watch the debate in the meantime?

The point is protecting American Democracy. If that fails the world is in trouble.

Indeed.

Watch the debate, we're already in a bit of trouble.

If you're saying should Biden win "we're in trouble" I entirely disagree.