Donald Trump the Megathread part II - threadbans and mod warnings in OP

What I meant to say, look here, we got the job started, malarkey.

Dramatic but in reality it just clarifies and protects the standard operating procedure that all Presidents operate under and frankly can only operate under.

the first part is incredibly egregious. Essentially it appears a president could even write a criminal conspiracy down on paper and that paper would not be admissible as evidence because it is a private presidential record.

A president could orchestrate a coup attempt and you would not be able to admit into evidence that he sat in the dining room and refused to do nothing about the coup unfolding for hours but instead just stared at the live news feeds of his coup unfolding and his advisers could not testify about it at trial.

this is why Biden has to be the next president. He has all the power right now to, very officially and with presumptive immunity, assassinate Donald Trump, John Roberts, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Comey Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, Samuel Alito, and Clarence Thomas - and every Republican member of Congress; but he would never in a million years, because he isn’t, never was, and never aspired to be or believes in tyrants.

Trump has already entertained the idea of assassinating his political rivals, as we know from his advisers blowing that whistle loudly and clearly.

I don’t think an awful lot of people realise how big this is and how much closer now that USA is to being autocratic democracy and that bit closer to either civil war or full blown dictatorship.

Trump isn’t the problem, he’s just a system of the massive divide that both dems/Repubs have done little to navigate. I don’t see how USA is repaired, even if Trump doesn’t get in.

It’s like the wheels are already in motion and the only thing that would stop it is a foreign adversary directly galvanising Americans or a philanthropic president reversing a lot of the destruction of the guard rails that provided usa with some protection from a rogue president.

Will the dollar remain as popular a reserve currency ? They will collapse if cracks appear as they won’t be able to service their debt if dollar doesn’t retain its power. Feels like the potential beginning of the end of USA super power.

Think China and Russia know, the new world order will most likely be seperate satellites of USA , Europe, South America , Africa , Asia , Russia, China etc with everybody kind of keeping to themselves in general. A Europe pivot east is possible , particularly if Trumps c*ntish narcissistic attitude goes into proper over drive.

what selective and minor ways that couldn’t be reversed by an incoming incumbent with tyrannical aims?

If USA votes for tyranny with open eyes they (but not those who vote against) deserve their fate.

My suggestion was that selective and minor breakages of the law by Biden could head this off at the pass.

If they can't then so be it (the opposing States might have to take greater independence from the authoritarian ones)

Can Biden force the trials of Trump to take place before any election?(remove the SC judges for example- their approval rates are at rock bottom so it could be a popular move.)

The Constitutional Convention of May 1787 in Philadelphia, not the Congress, drafted the Constitution and then it was ratified by the first 13 states. Congress was only created after the Constitution was ratified, under Article I. Article V of the constitution details how the Constitution is able to be amended, all amendments must be ratified by 3/4ths of the States to be amended into the constitution. Congress does not have the authority itself to amend the Constitution without ratification by the States and bills to amend the Constitution must however begin in the Congress and pass both chambers by a 2/3rds majority. Alternatively, though it has never transpired, 2/3rds of the States may call for a subsequent Constitutional Convention, thereby circumventing the Congress and going back to the drafting table but where which 3/4ths of the States must still ratify any changes.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1784-1800/convention-and-ratification

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-5/overview-of-article-v#:~:text=U.S.%20Const.-,art.,proposed%20by%20the%20Congress%E2%80%9D%20).

There is a lot wrong with what you are saying/remembering about what someone online told you about the Constitution. I would unlearn what you learned.

Something like…

Only YOU can stop a Trump Dictatorship.
The Republican Supreme Court won't STOP HIM!

Exactly, that's what Biden and democrats are now going to run on.

Thanks for the above. I had "googled" for info on the constitution founding and saw all the different meeting and groups involved, incl the constitutional convention in Philadelphia firstly. There was too much to drink in there when the thing I was most interested in is the current constitution and how it's being handled by the USSC and weaponized by you know who with the aid of lawyers.

Where it comes to Trumps failed election, Rudy Giuliani has had his NY State licence to practice law revoked. The ruling was made Tuesday by the Appellate Division, First Department. The licence was suspended in 2021 by the same division.

The ruling states that Giuliani “is disbarred from the practice of law, effective immediately, and until the further order of this Court, and his name stricken from the roll of attorneys and counselors-at-law in the State of New York.” “The disciplinary charges stem from the allegations that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers, and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump’s failed effort at reelection in 2020. “These false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent’s narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client.”

Retired Judge Barry Kamins, who represented Giuliani during the proceedings, said in a statement to the New York Law Journal that Giuliani “is obviously disappointed in the decision and we are weighing our appellate options.”