Biden v Trump (and one or two others) The US Presidential election 2024. Read OP before posting

It's laid out in detail in their manifesto

There's no conspiracy, they're quite proud about it. Have you done any research on it?

From cold to jetlag, more excuses from his handlers

That's impressive. Gone from a cold to too much prep work (bad advisers) to jetlag. Will give them points for variety.

Unsurprisingly the 81 year old man is tired and in need of rest, nobody thought any differently Joe.

a bit less sarcasm, more clear sentences please

Doth protest too much methinks.

They’re avoiding the elephant in the room- regardless of what medical condition Biden has or doesn’t have, it’s very clear and has been for some time now, that Biden requires careful handling, management and control whilst in public well over and above what any other President in modern times requires.

The more they’re trying to say “there’s nothing wrong”, the more the public no less Democrats themselves, are shaking their heads in despair.

We’re not bloody stupid- I’ve experienced dementia with countless relatives - I’m not saying Biden has dementia because I’m not a doctor but it’s bloody obvious to me that he’s exhibiting signs of behaviour that are commensurate with a dementia type illness.

His handlers are pretty much lying to the public at this stage- the public have made up their mind that this person is not fit to govern and I don’t blame them. Biden must go and go now- it’s more than likely his condition will worsen in the next 6 months - on a human level alone, that’s not fair on Biden.

It's amazing how quickly your political capital can ebb away and we are seeing Biden's dissipate into the Potomac.

I can't really see Biden standing down due to the noises coming out of his camp and also the script that outlets like MSNBC are reading from.

If he is not to be the Dem nominee, someone's probably going to have to get a bit ruthless about it. Not suggesting a mysterious white powder slipped into his coffee or anything, but something which forces him to retire from politics.

I actually completely disagree with your last statement - and this is why:

up until last Thursday night, Trump (himself a terrible, fatally flawed candidate) was running against an opponent who was himself diminished both in political and personal terms. This was good news for Trump and even more so after the debate. Literally all their campaigning could now take the form of running Biden debate videos on a loop and saying 'do you really want this confused old man to be leader of the free world?'. The GOP campaign was, at that point, a slam dunk and they were eyeing up potential control of all three branches.

Now however, with Biden's imminent departure, the scene has shifted. Trump will be up against a much younger, baggage-free opponent. Someone like Newsom or Whitmer would roast him alive on character, democracy and Roe. You can actually see the nervousness and realisation of this starting to creep into the MAGA consciousness.

Another point I'd like to make is this: Americans like change and younger candidates. Bill Clinton, George W Bush, Obama and yes, Trump, are all recent examples of relative younger outsiders coming from nowhere to take the White House against more established opponents.

So in my view, the chaos and disarray of the last few days will resolve itself into a much more favourable outcome. We will get a vigorous new candidate who will defeat Trump handily and Biden will be remembered fondly as a good president and a good man who had the courage and the wisdom to place the national interest above his own.

Biden is very fortunate to have Trump as an opponent. A less toxic GOP ticket would be having a field day.

What did she say? I deleted twitter about 2 weeks ago so get most of my news on election from here.

from the NYT:

Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California and the former speaker, said on Tuesday that it was “legitimate” to ask whether Mr. Biden’s bad night at the debate was a one-time flub or “a condition” — though she added that Mr. Trump should have to answer the same question about the falsehoods he uttered.

“I think it’s a legitimate question to say is this an episode or is this a condition,” Ms. Pelosi said in her first extended remarks since Mr. Biden’s halting and disjointed performance at the debate.

“When people ask that question, it’s legitimate — of both candidates,” she added. “What we saw on the other side was lying.”

Decode those words into plain English and it's clear what she is signalling.

I really dont know if its too late but I agree on this.

Its absolutely crucial though that they have consensus if Biden does pull out.