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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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    #20672
    fandozzle
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭fandozzle


    https://x.com/paulmotty/status/1808516694341500995?t=kP1rxNshoJu4sJFFugLJ4Q&s=19



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    #20673
    Headshot
    Registered Users Posts: 54,357 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I suppose it's to late now for a new Democratic nomination?



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    #20674
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


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    New internal polling since the debate shows catastrophic numbers for Biden. Swing states are swinging red. The clock is running down for Biden to step down…..



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    #20675
    DaithiMa
    Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭DaithiMa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335758#Comment_122335758

    Yes, agree 100%. For what it's worth I am not posting the odds to suggest Trump wins. The interesting thing about what has happened in the market overnight and today is that somebody somewhere seems pretty certain that it will be Harris v Trump and not Biden. And they have put their money where their mouth is.



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    #20676
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335778#Comment_122335778

    What source is this?



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    #20677
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335876#Comment_122335876

    Open Labs



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    #20678
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335876#Comment_122335876

    it’s bleak but accurate


    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #20679
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335754#Comment_122335754

    more money = lower odds.

    It’s not prediction.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #20680
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,207 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335754#Comment_122335754

    Bookies also paid out on Hillary right after the release of the now infamous Access Hollywood tape.

    And the newspapers also printed “DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN”



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    #20681
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,673 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There's a touch of vanity and arrogance about Biden (and his wife) wanting to take on the job approaching his 82nd birthday. Most people of that age would concede it was too much for them and would be better done by a younger person.



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    #20682
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Cut to if/when he does step down, all the people still insisting there's no issue and he just has a stammer will be saying "what's the big deal we all knew this would happen, what a hero doing what's right for the country, nothing to see here blah blah blah".



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    #20683
    LessOutragePlz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336070#Comment_122336070

    God forbid they ever admit that they were wrong about something!



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    #20684
    DaithiMa
    Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭DaithiMa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335969#Comment_122335969

    The exchange is not the bookies, it allows normal Joe Soaps to back and lay, you can only back with normal bookmakers. Also, I am not claiming that the markets are always right.

    All I am saying is that the way the odds have moved in the Next President market AND the Democrat Nomination market in the last 12/18 hours suggest that Biden won't run and Harris will. Nothing to do with Trump winning or not. I am not predicting what will happen either way, it is just unusual for such a massive change in odds to happen in such a short period of time.



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    #20685
    DaithiMa
    Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭DaithiMa


    I never said it was a prediction! You claimed that money for Trump was the reason for Harris shortening and Biden drifting and that I didn't understand odds. What has money for Trump got to do with Harris moving from 20.0 into 5.50 and Biden drifting from 3.00/4.00 to 13.5 in the next president market?

    All the money is going on Harris. She's also now a clear favourite to be the Democrats nomination, a market that has zero to do with Trump.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335959#Comment_122335959



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    #20686
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    ..

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    #20687
    ronjo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭ronjo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336070#Comment_122336070

    I dont think the majority of people would think or say this.

    I was taken aback by his performance and I really hope he now does step down for the right of the country.



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    #20688
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336142#Comment_122336142

    It was said on this thread that his debate performance was simply down to his stammer and he's perfectly fine and normal. This was days after the event when it became clear that there are serious misgivings within the party about Bidens health and viability. Just a stammer, lol. They are a minority, but some people seemingly wont allow themselves to see the obvious, but they'll pivot on a dime when the official storyline changes, wait and see.

    Meanwhile, in the non delusional world, even Bill Maher, whos always said he will vote for Biden even if he's just a "head in a jar", says it's time for him to go.



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    #20689
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336157#Comment_122336157

    It was said on this thread that his debate performance was simply down to his stammer and he's perfectly fine and normal.

    No it wasn't.

    Like, it explains elements of it, but he's also clearly very **** old. I don't think he is a dementia patient or anything, he's just old. I wish someone else capable had run, but they didn't.



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    #20690
    ronjo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭ronjo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336157#Comment_122336157

    Yes there might be minorities alright….. I havent seen ONE Trump fan on Boards address the project 25 stuff though. For some reason every single time its mentioned its just ignored.



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    #20691
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,207 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336187#Comment_122336187

    well, others ran, but the voters weren’t interested. Biden ran away with the primaries.



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    #20692
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Looking like they need the Kamala / Fetterman dream team to save the day.

    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1808560544326299997

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #20693
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336204#Comment_122336204

    Someone else capable. Those who ran were weirdos.

    It is what it is. If I was American I'd vote for a Weekend at Bernies Biden over Trump, but no one in the party thought they could beat Biden in a primary.



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    #20694
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,207 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336092#Comment_122336092

    I understand you but again, while it is an unusual shift in odds I was also just pointing out the shift in odds was so drastic after the access Hollywood tape that bookies actually paid out on Hillary winning the election before it happened. Have the bookies paid out on Biden losing the election yet?



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    #20695
    thecretinhop
    Registered Users Posts: 6,585 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    Can Joe not get corn pop and give him a good beating behind the bike shed lol.

    On a serious note if Biden goes ahead it's a beating. In 2020 I was incredulous he got 81 million votes/smelled fishy

    2024 not a hope anyone wud belive it

    Kamala Harris is probably more hated than Hilary she's a grifter

    Newsome has destroyed California

    Only hope to beat Trump Michelle obama not seeing her running though..



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    #20696
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336246#Comment_122336246

    Wait they smelled fishy yet any case in court alleging this was thrown out and led to many lawyers disbarred. Quick get onto Rudi as you might just save his career



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    #20697
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336199#Comment_122336199

    Well I'm not a trump fan, don't really know that much about the project 25 thing. Had a quick Google yesterday and so it seems its a think tank who want to implement all these crazy ideas. Has trump said he's on board with it? Think tanks say a lot of things. My impression was it's the democrat version of the FEMA camps conspiracy theory that pops up every few years.



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    #20698
    DaithiMa
    Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭DaithiMa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336220#Comment_122336220

    Whoever has been laying him on the exchange to be the Democrat nomination or to be next president will be getting paid out if he doesn't run and Harris does.

    Absolutely nothing to do with the bookies paying out early on Hillary (which was a publicity stunt by one bookie) and I have no idea what the access Hollywood tape is you are talking about.

    My interest in the basket case that is American politics is tenuous at best and I am not a Trump supporter. I think he's a clown. I just thought the betting markets were interesting but it seems some take odds very personally.



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    #20699
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,539 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    NYT and others seeming to push the narrative that Kamala Harris will be the nominee.

    I'm hoping this works out really well for the Democrats; Biden remains POTUS through the end of the year and does what he can to boost Harris' campaign. I don't see the need for him to resign, he won't be back in 2025 no matter what, and why upset the apple cart?

    Maybe Harris can come up with, I dunno, some ideas that are more than 'Be afraid of CFTrump.' Like, Medicare for all? Nationwide right to abortion if elected? Things like that.

    She wouldn't have to woo the Democrat base too hard; as always, it's the swing voters. CFTrump will make that easy.



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    #20700
    hometruths
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭hometruths


    This afternoon CNN were leading with the NYT story that Biden is discussing whether or not he should stay in the race.

    If he's lost CNN and the NYT he's toast, it's strange that he doesn't realise it yet.



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    #20701
    Russman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭Russman


    Its interesting times, I dislike Trump as much as any normal person does, but at this stage the Dems might be as well off essentially "throwing" this election. Not a chance Biden wins if he runs, and if you're one of the other potentials being mentioned, why would you ruin what will likely be your one and only shot at a presidential run, on at best, half a campaign ? Can't see any of them actually wanting the nomination this time round when it looks like DT is a shoo-in. Let Harris have a go to get her out of the picture for next time and have someone halfway competent lined up for when/if they next have an election.



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