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Free State with Dion Fanning and Joe Brolly

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Thanks.... to be honest I only listen to certain episodes of it I have some interest in and even then i end up skipping through much of those episodes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    The more I listen to this podcast, the more I side with RTE for getting rid of Joe Brolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Same. The nuggets of insight or good analysis are completely dwarfed by the sheer amount of ego and narcissism here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Piskin


    Also had a nasty chip on his shoulder towards "free-staters"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Piskin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,851 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    If the Trots had any cop on, they'd approach Brolly to run in the next election.

    He certainly spouts their hoary old soundbites ad nauseum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    This pod!

    They had on Gary Stevenson, the young Londoner who went from poverty to the top of the traders in the City and earned millions. Gary is a strong personality himself and, rightly, believed the idea of him coming on was to explain his book and speak for the majority of the time.

    He wasn't expecting good old Joe who kept trying to talk over him, kept slowing down the flow of the chat with his loooong laborious ramblings about his hot take on high finance and casino capitalism. The pod was 40 minutes ish, with little structure, chronologically all over the shop and covered very little ground in the story of his life. It was part 1 of a 2 part episode that, judging from lots of other podcasts who have done Gary justice in 1 hour flat, didn't need to be strung out into two aimless episodes.

    Just another example of this podcast taking the piss with listeners. The ad revenue must be fantastic for podcasts that these two can get away with this amateurish approach and still be a viable and lucrative use of their time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭jaykay74




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Just after listening to the latest pods they did on Mickey Harte. 2 full episodes of Brolly indulgently moaning about what Harte has done to Derry. Fanning again very weak and getting bullied by Brolly any time he offers a different point of view. I couldn't listen to the end.

    This topic didn't merit one full episode nevermind 2. The whole thing has gone really downhill after some promising episodes. Fanning should pull the plug on this nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I gave up on this about a year ago.

    2 good episodes on the Rte scandal only buys you so much goodwill. Impossible to listen to Brolly,such as spiteful,hateful,petty man.

    Dion Fanning is been bullied and humiliated regularly. I think he'll look back on this project in years to come and be embarrassed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I think it goes to show that it's almost impossible to work with Brolly in media. A polite non-confrontational co-host like Dion should allow Joe the space he needs and he just needs to be reasonable in return. But no he can't even do that. Alternatively put a strong opinionated character with him and you get complete fallout. I don't think there is a happy medium either.

    It really appears that Joe has insecurity issues and can't deal with sharing the limelight or pushback in any way. As someone mentioned already in this thread the only time he quietens down is when they have a charismatic guest like Christy Moore on and then it's about the guest more than Joe (2 excellent episodes I thought).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    Brolly is not a fan of Dick Clerkin anyway. 'Dick by name, dick by....' he sarcastically said. And all because Fanning annoyed Joe so much for having the temerity to read a piece Clerkin did about how much he liked playing Derry during his career because basically their hearts were not in a lot of the time and he never really rated them

    Obviously pissed Brolly right off and didn't suit his own narrative where you'd swear Derry were after winning five All Ireland in recent years the way he was going on. Clerkin did a bit of a hatchet job on Derry and Brolly had no other option but to likewise to Clerkin. And Fanning quite happy it seems to play underling and take Brollys criticism of him on the chin without any comeback.

    I never heard of this podcast until i saw it on here and have listened to a few episodes but i find Brolly insufferable and Fanning too in his own rambling boring way. A match made in hell.

    Post edited by YabaDabaDooley on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    I had a go with the Mickey Harte stuff but just had to give up. I find the premise that this podcast is shackled to, Nordie issues, GAA and Nordie GAA, to be tiresome in the extreme at this stage. I think there is something here if Brolly could be reigned in and the topics were a bit more varied but as it stands it's just tedious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,851 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I'll say one thing about the Mickey Harte episodes, they're easier to listen to than the Palestine ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Leslie Purkiss


    Brolly is morphing into Alan Partridge. You’d worry for the man, and Dion having to suffer through it. Insane stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I've looked at the podcast titles the last few weeks and decided to give it a miss. How can every episode suddenly be about Joe's personal views on gaelic football? I like GAA but I can't understand how Dion allows this indulgence. Brolly is really making a fool of him at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    He deserves the title of saint. The last person left in Irish media willing to put up with this nonsense it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Some might say that Joe Brolly is living ' rent free' in your head Dr. Bobson...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭touts


    I gave up listening to it. Brolly started as a headwrecking crank but entertaining. The entertaining part died months ago. There is a real whiff of the Neil Oliver podcast about him. In that Neil, the scottish historian from the BBC, started out covering historical topics and was pretty interesting just as in his BBC TV shows. Then he started to throw in an odd comment or two. Now he gave up on history and is full on conspiracy theory, time for revolution, insanity. Brolly is about 2 years behind him on the spiral downwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Some of the earlier episodes were quite enjoyable. I previously mentioned the 2 excellent Christy Moore pods where Joe kept quiet and let him speak. It worked well with Dion having a presenter role and Joe chipping in with some interesting anecdotes involving Christy and provoking an interesting discussion on the Stardust stuff. I hadn't known how deeply Christy got involved in all that.

    But that's the whole problem - unless they have a big personality or some one very well known Joe will just go and make the whole thing about himself. I wonder why they have gone away from the guest slots - is it a money issue?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Had a look at the blurb for the latest episode, basically an investigation into how sport has lost its soul and become a commodity. Right up my alley I thought.....

    Lasted about 10 minutes before Brolly was just going off on one about Mickey Harte and raging about how footballers traded in clichés after matches. I skipped thru it at 3 minute intervals and it was just Brolly, Brolly Brolly wanging on about GAA, only tentatively related to the podcast title.

    This is a sick joke of a show at this stage. Dion Fabnning must be a sadomaschist who gets off on listening to this dose arguing with himself every week. The money would want to be fantastic to put up with this.

    Ps, I thought the sudden jarring transition into an ad for shaving foam or razor blades called "Smooth Sack Summer" was fitting. This pod is a kick in the nuts to the listener.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I'm not a huge Harte fan but Brolly recently calling him a c**t was completely unacceptable in my opinion. Fanning must be contracted to a certain amount of episodes. Otherwise it seems inexplicable that he would persist, considering the toxic direction the pod has taken.

    It almost feels at this stage that Brolly is engaging in some sort of self-loathing, self-sabotaging process to sink the pod. They must be losing large amounts of listeners if the sentiment on this thread is anything to go by.

    Regarding the 'smooth sack' adverts maybe I'm a prude but I find them a bit tasteless. The Second captains lads are it as well. Everytime I hear the adverts I cringe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,583 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    He does seem to have a real hatred for Harte. Not sure why.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Shank Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I've heard it a few times recently. Eoin and Murph acting it out. I'm guessing Ken wants no part of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Editorially it makes no sense. Surely to God, they would be better off covering domestic and international politics regularly, different sports, different sportsmen and women. There is more than enough going on in the world that they don't need to devote multiple hours to club GAA in Derry and ranting about Mickey Harte.

    For a high profile barrister and obviously well travelled man, Brolly is as parochial as they come. I get the feeling that Dion is an outward looking man and would like to front a wide ranging podcast but he is being held back by Brolly who "just wants to go on about himself and settle old scores in public" 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Dion seems much more sophisticated alright. Brolly's childhood experiences in the north seem to be behind his persona. There's an obvious massive chip on his shoulder there.

    The way Brolly sneers at soccer whenever Fanning mentions it is another example of his clingy devotion to GAA. It's quite insulting to the many volunteers involved in the FAI underage system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    the fuq? That sounds implausible but unless you’re having very vivid strange fever dreams I guess it’s true.


    you are not a subber I assume? You are Monday only?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yes Monday only so those subbing may not hear it. Definitely not a fever dream 🤣

    Just checked again - 12mins 45 secs on Episode 2981 free pod on spotify you'll hear it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Did you smash it




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