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Womens' rugby Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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    #2222
    Caranica
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    Surprised nobody mentioned the WAIL final on Sunday. Cracking match. Beats me why Chisom Ugueru isn't in the Irish 23



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    #2223
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085139#Comment_122085139

    Good match. Shame more didn't go and also that it clashed with 6 nations weekend



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    #2224
    thamus doku
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭thamus doku


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085139#Comment_122085139

    I enjoy watching the women’s rugby when on tele but I admit I know very little on the players.
    I watched the wail final on tele and ugwueru looked good as did Flannery who had good moments and finished well, her passing was really good.
    To me the standard was overall good.



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    #2225
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    Both Ugwueru and Flannnery were very impressive in Celtic Chllenge in this year. I don't know why they were not selected, maybe they are not Leinster players. I think that Ugwueru will fit 7's more than Corrigan, so IRFU should use her as hiddened weapon at Olympics. AT current world rankings,Ireland women sevens team (7th) is above UK (8th=31points margins). At Olympics, Ireland has the possibility reaching last 4 if getting the favolite grouping. Ugwueru may be X-factor for it.



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    #2226
    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122088067#Comment_122088067

    They're not on the IRFU women's contracts, you pretty much have to live within the M50 boundaries to get one of those. Contracted players get preference for selection to the national team.



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    #2227
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    Does IRFU prepare for U20 six nations (July)? If they has a strong will to win against England at 4/july, The squads already must be selected and began the training camp (long term). If at U20 match, Ireland win or make (get) close game, Ireland senior team may fight a bit decsent game against England than the current team. Does anyone has squads information? And I think that next year's 6N should be held at Limerick or Galway because spreadding fans and players in those areas. Humphreys should ponder it. He looks thinking only Dublin and Belfast It's unfair..



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    #2228
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122131381#Comment_122131381

    Ireland play in cork very often. So between Dublin, Belfast and cork they play in three of the provinces.

    They certainly could move a few games to Galway and the redevelopment of the sportsground will certainly make it an attractive destination.

    On the u20s summer series, the squad isn't picked yet. Interestingly they can select 3 x u23 players in the squad as well. It's very much a development competition, so while good results will be the goal, it won't really be a yardstick of the quality of squads at that level as it won't be strongest team every time



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    #2229
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122131381#Comment_122131381

    Of course they're in prep for 6 nations. Multiple camps held already. Training games etc

    Squad won't be likely announced for a few weeks considering games don't start until early July.



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    #2230
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122131455#Comment_122131455

    Thank you. I know that W6N v England took place in Cork, and was placed 3 times in Limerick(1997,2003,2007). But after that no west side of island has been selected as the venue although many excellent players are there like McMahon, Breen, Wall, Parsons, Flood, Reilley etc. So I think that Limerick is the good place for total Ireland. And if Limerick don't want it, then Galway may receive it imo.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122131557#Comment_122131557

    Thank you. So I think that the problem is their actual training hours and the density. Watching U18 festa, Ireland had almost equivalent height and weight and run ability but looked inferior a bit in the field of physicality and fitness + passing speed and restandig speed after tacklings. To resolve this, I think that Ireland need the intensive hard work for a month in a row if possible.( Indeed I know the difficulity include the compensation.) Can Humphreys prepare that money?



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    #2231
    thamus doku
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭thamus doku


    how will the new rules affect womens rugby. Will it have same affect as it will for the mens.



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    #2232
    Caranica
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122135412#Comment_122135412

    Laws 😉



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    #2233
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    U 20 womens 6 Nations festa will begin soon in Palma, Italy where very inhot weather (degree is near 30°c.) So I 'm afraid of players health. For almost Irish players, this is the first internatinal experience (except Celtic challenge), and first opponent is England in this heat. So I want to say them 「please take care for never getting injury or illness」.



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    #2234
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336668#Comment_122336668

    ManMany the players have played international at 18s and yes it will be warm but worry for their health. Wouldn't think it's that bad.



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    #2235
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    I am not a doctor, but know about the heatstroke well from my experience. So I worry it. I know U18 Festa too. It took place in Wales at spring season where was far different from Palma's heat. Is IRFU has had preparation for the heatstroke?If it has been done, maybe they will be Ok. I think that this series are some kind of friendly, (Briggs said that this will be difficult match against England who has had different pass-way from Ireland who made women's U20 team first time.) And they(she and some players) said that they emphasis on. the experience.) Anyway please prepare massive water and ice and do 'energy saving' rugby.



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    #2236
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122337330#Comment_122337330

    The coaches, medics, tournament organisers are all far more sure about all this and it really isn't an issue. If too warm there's mandated water breaks and it's really really not going ro be an issue.

    Anyway in other news connacht play Ulster tomorrow in a warm up ahead of senior interpros in august



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    #2237
    kita99
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    That’s very good. Players all looked healthy and learned many things from this good experience.

    On the other hand, there was another problem. We (rugby fans in the whole world including Ireland and UK) could this match on live streaming through youtube channel on demand, but that program was shutted off because that the program was including some contents (of which copy and another rights belongs to SME =Sony Music Entertaiment or enterprize). I cannot understand that reason because in the rugby internatinal match of rugby(and other sports) only natinal anthem or rugby anthem is used in the game time. And I think it's hard (about them) SME has any legal rights for any anthems. this is strange and ridiculous thing. Maybe this was over-reaction by Youtube. So I 'll try to ask a question to Sony group for getting some recommendation. And I am seeking to avoid this restriction by myself now, but I don't know whether it will go well.



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    #2238
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    Thanks, youtube now recovered naturally.

    And I think that both players needed one more water -break at each half because (even at evening Palma seem very hot for rugby players). Two tries from Ireland was excellent. Their scrums was very good. They need to improve their pass-speed and length and their defending skills (positioning and communications). I expect their next match against Italy.



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    #2239
    Lost Ormond
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353290#Comment_122353290

    GGuess Work again. Regs only allow 1 break unless temperatures really were very hot and medics demanded it.

    Expect what of match against Italy?



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    #2240
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    1. No injury 2 Enjoy rugby 3 Play speed. At the first match against England, Ireland concentrated well in 2nd half. So I hope that they will do it from the beginning at next match.



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    #2241
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    It was not rugby match. All Irish players fought well against mad weather and strange and poor ref. And IRFU didn't prepare for this abnormal heat.



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    #2242
    arsebiscuits1
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    Stuck on the second half of the Womens Under20s this morning.

    Disappointing loss but some promise in there.

    Lots of good skills and good defensive technique and attitude.

    Contact skills were really really poor though. Italy got to poach the ball at will so Ireland never got a foothold. Rucks weren't resourced well enough and the technique around it was also poor. Ball carriers caught not fighting for their feet too often.

    Not too disappointed there were some good showings.

    Faith Oviawe looks to be an absolute superstar. At times looked like the overage player playing underage. She was out there taking NAMES of the Italian players with her hits. Seriously pacy and very strong in contact. Probably needs to work on her ball handling skills.

    I don't recall her standing out in the AIL final but I don't have a great memory of the game.

    Hopefully we see her step up to senior international rugby next season. Any team needs an athlete of her calibre



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    #2243
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122358144#Comment_122358144

    I agree this post about Oviawe. But at the same time, The poor preparation of IRFU was obvious. Maybe Campbell who retired early in the first half seemed to get heat stroke.



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    #2244
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    The weather forecast for Palma on this week-end is 32°c. Maybe on the pitch、it will be more hotter. IRFU must talk with Scotland and the organiser of this competitions and tell them stop (cancel) this matches as same as men's game in SA. I think that there is some more cool places near Alps etc, but Italy intentionally selected hotter place as a venue. (I guess that in Italy, rugby is not popular natiowide and cannot get agreement by tourism sector,) At the late match against Italy, Ni Chonchobhair was suffered (probably) heat stroke within 20min from the geginning of the game and was replaced. Some other players has felt very heavy through the game. At the next game day, the temparature will grow higher by the forecast. It's crazy to play rugby. If something bad happens, it's the responsibiliity of Humphreys, Mcderby, team doctor and HC. If cancel is not avairable, Ireland should wisdraw with their own will because of defening player's health. thinking very little attendance, the influence will be small. About against Italy match, there were some strange and questionable judgements by spanish female ref, but even no TMO checking was taken prace. Robyn O'Connor was suffered nusty horizontal tackling but penalty was only conceeded, and Italy's 4th try was very questinable. But both case did not go to TMO as same as rocal practice games. the ref arbitrarily tried to control the game and failed. The organiser should not use such a person as a ref. And one more strange thing, there seemed several head injuried player, but maybe no temporary HIA checking including O'Connors's case. No doctorand TMO machine?



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    #2245
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users Posts: 4,103 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122366054#Comment_122366054

    You haven't shown anything to back up your claims about the weather. World rugby had procedures in place about warm weather and games played. You go on as if it's unsafe and nothing is in place for the warm weather when it's clear that isn't the case and they're prepping like any Irish team be it mens pro side or anyone else playing in those conditions.



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    #2246
    sydthebeat
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    Jesus you'd swear these are precious little flowers in need of protection, it's actually very condescending commentary.

    All players play the same conditions.

    The same condescension was suggested when you claimed it was unsafe for the senior women to play England.

    If they were not capable of playing in these competitions they would not be there. They do not need any special protections any other team doesn't get.

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    #2247
    sydthebeat
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    At the late match against Italy, Ni Chonchobhair was suffered (probably) heat stroke within 20min from the geginning of the game and was replaced

    just on this.

    first off it wasnt a late game, it was at 10:30 am in the morning in italy.

    ive had a look back and Cliodhna wasnt finding noticeably any harder that any other irish girl in the first 20 minutes, in fact she was leading the blitz defense line as last as the 18min. She also was the receiver of the ireland line out straight before the kiripati try. in the build up she took a very heavy hit to the head in a pick and jam just before ireland try, from the italian TH and a supporting player (check 21 min on the match clock). She didnt seem to recover after that and was taken off shrtly after the restart.

    Now im not saying it wasnt heat stroke, but it could easily have been a suspected concussion as the visual indicators are practically identical.

    the 42 article on the game says she was forced off with a knock.



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    #2248
    kita99
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭kita99


    I only posted my own opinion based my family member's actual experience. But I won't say anything further about this.



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    #2249
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122367546#Comment_122367546

    had you a family member playing in this game?



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    #2250
    Lost Ormond
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    WX1 fixtures confirmed

    And under 18 interpros fixtures announced as well

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2024/07/17/pwc-womens-u18-interprovincial-championship-fixtures-announced-2/ 

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2024/07/16/fixtures-confirmed-for-second-edition-of-wxv/



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