Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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Best of luck on your travels

Nonsense?I didnt think it was that confusing tbh fairly basic sentence

There where plenty of comments along the lines of <you cant rotate for this geme> changing their minds now im not going serching back if you disagree good for you for avoiding it

As i said If you think nobodys been a sceptic of giving casey starts that's fine im not trawling through a boards thread for the messeges if you feel that everyone in this thread has been pro rotation of players again thats fine but were looking at different threads

Well those people were never really for experimentation for the tour then - they were just calling for the backup players they wanted to get an opportunity.

With Keenan ruling himself out, whoever filled in at FB was going to be some form of experimentation. AF hasn't dropped a starter or even a clear backup, like it would have been for most other options for 'experimentation'.

It is a surprise and an obvious risk, but selecting one of the most exciting young prospects in the country is the type of thing many would hail other coaches for taking the gamble on during a summer tour.

Im not sure farrell has really gotten stick for this though has he?

Like of coarse people are asking questions its an unusual choice but has anyone actually had a go off farrell for it?

I agree, people claim they want experimentation, when the coach does it but it’s not the player they want then they find another excuse to complain

Personally I didn’t see him doing a massive change like Osbourne for this tour, he has done it so I will get behind him and the player, hope it’s a huge success

Other will wait for an error and then complain about the players

Think of the online comments about Lowe and JGP when they first started playing for Ireland

You don’t have to support Ireland or be supportive of anything the Irish coaching team do

Others can make their own decision

If you think playing a forward in a back position is the same as playing a back in a different back position, well so be it.

Perhaps I've misread the situation but I picked up some vaguely critical notes in things like;

"Osborne at 15 is just plain ridiculous"

"Playing into SA hands."

"Farrell is trying to win an award for dumbest decision in history."

Maybe I'm just an auld codger and the kids are now using words like ridiculous and dumb as positives.

Fair enough missed all those

i wonder about the communication within the irfu.

Farrell said something along the lines of this being in the works for a while. If that's the case, why would they let leinster sign a world class 12/15 for next year? 6 months or not, its a basic fact that a guy considered good enough to start for ireland will be less likely to make leinster 23s for big games than he is now. And WAY less likely to play 12 or 15. Yea, its 6 months but that's the 6 months when the big games are played. Its a mystifying decision.

Blocking does not exist as a concept if that is not blocking.

Itsintentionally silly to show how silly.the previous point was, u20s experience does not translate to senior international rugby. He has 1 cap there and were trying him in a full international now this is not the same as saying we should rotate guys like cian prendergast or dave mccann into their normal positions

Its an interesting one also in fairness if frawley,job and larmor are not seen as the answer any more. We dont actually have many specialist fullbacks in the country for whatever reason

Following the Wales Aus match and it occurs to me that the Osborne selection is a very Gatland type move.
Gatland has never had a problem selecting youth over experience and how often has it paid off for him? More often than not I’d say.

Get in there and learn fast.

Woolshed on Parnell St, you'll get plenty of saffers there too atmosphere should be good

Baird for POM. One of Osborne or Frawley for Aki, if Henshaw is out. JOB for Nash. I'd start Ryan and have Beirne on the bench, thought he struggled to impact the game today.