Reseeding question

Using gran lime on a small reseed, usually go with ground lime so not sure about when to apply, after it's tilled or before? Does it matter? Thanks

Thanks that's what I will do

is that gran lime or ground lime?

Interesting though that you’d till in the fertiliser??

Different reseeding question, now. Is there any difference in cultivation methods in your opinion?
In the past we always ploughed, landleaveler, planted. Recently we started disking 2 runs, power harrow 1 run plus then planted with a one pass.

Perfectly happy with both of these, but both take a while and are expensive.

A one pass is called a one pass for a reason, how successful is doing straight into a burnt off field with a one pass and planting? Or even does it need some cultivation before that?

If old pasture/meadow would the ploughing not improve drainage

Mostly I find ploughing the best way over all for that reason and also turn out a better job overall but leaves it more tender for a period.

I’ve a couple of acres sprayed off a week now for a reseed. I was going to spread Granlime as it’s in too awkward a spot for ground lime to be spread. How many bags/acre would be recommended? And would it be spread before or after disc harrow?
Also, would ye recommend 2 or 3 bags per acre of 10/10/20 at sowing? Thanks

Won't matter really with granlime.

Min of 2 bags of granlime and also you could give it 2 bags of 10 10 20. With another bag after first grazing.

I usually spread all that between the discing and powerharrowing.

You'll need the 2 bags of lime regardless of soil test as you'll need to counter the acidic sprayed off grass.

Ground lime goes out before discing. Gran lime after is the rule I use. That's if its possible

That’s great. Thanks very much for your advice Reggie. I’ll follow that👍

Thank you Reggie. Good information there.
When you say the powerharrow is a secondary cultivater, would it work ok as the sole cultivater if you gave it several runs of it?

I would love to buy the equipment to do my own reseeding but cant buy a whole fleet of equipment. I wonder would just a powerharrow do a good job or would that be a mistake.

For a farmer that would like to do his own reseeding what equipment would you recommend?

Im in derogation so are not allowed to plough after 31st May (one of the more stupid rules in my opinion)

Think a disc harrow would be a better machine for a farmer doing his own seeding there would be less maintenance with it. Two runs of a disc harrow leaves a good bed.

Suppose every time I have seen it was after it was ploughed in fairness

Thats a different finish in fairness

Whats the general order of events when tilling the ground for seed. After ploughing, do you harrow then pull a land leveler if needed or would you pull the leveler on it after ploughing and then harrow it?

After ploughing you roll it. 2 runs of a disc and then chain harrow or landleveller. Fertiliser then. Then powerharrow and sow

Rolling flattens the furrows so the discs can get in deep and work the soil. Powerharrow creates the seedbed and also gives it one final leveling before last rolling

Good idea with the rolling after ploughing. I dont have a disc harrow but it got 2 runs of a power harrow and i then pulled land leveler over it. Field was very bumpy, improved slightly after leveler but i think to your point, if i had rolled if first then harrowed i would have got a better result with levelling.

Good to know this for next time though.

how far did they stick the discs in the ground. Thought the discs would only have scratched the surface.

How much gallop would you use for a weed free grass prior to reseed (disc and power harrow same as @KingPanko)? And how many litres water to the acre?

Like iis says on the bottle, 4 litres to 6 a hectare. In roughly 100 litres water an acre. No big deal on water amount, all depends how smooth the terrain is for travel speed

The disk on its own won’t till it enough so absolutely will need a power harrow unless it’s specifically fine loose soil - certainly wouldn’t get away with just disking around me anyways.

Seeder will only ruffle it up with tines so won’t power harrow (unless there’s some new machine I haven’t heard of)

Power harrow does a great job levelling also.

if that’s what your contractor is saying then let them at it. Just don’t forget to give it a good rolling after the seeder.

Probly right. It's only done the once tho. Wouldn't spare it unnecessarily tho

it should only need one run of power harrow

What is the soil like?

Finally getting around to getting grass seed sown. Was just looking at various different mixes online, anyone recommend any of the above for intensive sheep grazing and maybe for management of grazing the possibility of a cut of Silage.