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Which car to bring back from Australia

  • 06-07-2024 8:12pm
    #1
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    I'm planning heading out to Australia like every 2nd young person in the country and have been thinking on which car to bring back when I return home. My understanding is buy a car at least 6 months from returning home with proof of ownership and residence in australia for that period and cannot sell for at least 1 year on return. Getting a shipping container or going roll on roll off (bit riskier with parts getting stolen).

    Something which will hold it's value (over an 18 month - 2 year period) would be high on the priority list in case I need to sell it on down the line for a deposit ect.

    Very tempted by the new 79 series lancruiser with the 2.8l engine, would certainly have rarity value over here but would likely never sell it on if I had one…

    Landcruiser Prado find a nice spec end of current line, big saving bringing passenger jeep in compared to commercial/pick-up given vrt savings. Could likely trade in for a commericial new j250 series 2 years down the line with not too much out of pocket.

    New j250 landcruiser seems to be a tight supply rolling out in most countries anecdotally.

    Full landcruiser (amazon) out of price range and a bit of an ignorant yoke for Ireland.

    Yaris gr (2021/22 reg) seems a nice fun car to have and definitely big saving on ireland but probably still depreciate like a stone if I ever sell on.

    Not completely dead set on toyota's either, just what I've come up with so far! Even golf gti's are decent value relative to ireland.



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  • #2
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    any thoughts on alternative cars or advice/experience bringing back cars welcome!



  • #3
    Buddy Bubs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Arent cars in Australia dearer than they are here?



  • #4
    kippy
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    Surely the shipping cost and associated risks would be problematic?



  • #5
    French Toast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭French Toast


    friend of a friend brought an Evo FQ300 home, very nice motor



  • #6
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I’d say you are shooting the load a bit.

    Get over there and get settled with a job and accommodation. It’s alot more expensive of a place to live than it’s made out. It would be a mistake to buy a car then be eating beans for the next few months because jobs don’t work out.


    You could end up with no parking or out in the country side, you may end up getting married and never come home, you may be home sick and come home in 4mths. Last thing you will want is a car hanging around your kneck.



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  • #7
    User1998
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349107#Comment_122349107

    Nha not used cars anyway. Most cars are like half the cost from my limited research. Australian Dollar is very weak compared to Euro



  • #8
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349107#Comment_122349107

    one the the cheapest countries in terms of car ownership

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-gr-yaris-circuit-pack-222/37046194

    https://www.autotrader.com.au/car/13791987/toyota/gr-yaris/nsw/brookvale/hatchback

    Nearly a 40% discount when you do currency conversion - have to factor in shipping though which would likely be in the region of €4k at a rough guesstimate.



  • #9
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349123#Comment_122349123

    Not as easy as bringing across from uk but definitely doable and there are companies that specialise in it. I have an uncle who brought a camry back with him in the early 2000s.

    The price of shipping containers has risen sharply since covid which is one negative.



  • #10
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349165#Comment_122349165

    There's not that many cars I haven't heard of before but that's definitely one…

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • #11
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349226#Comment_122349226

    that's a blast from the past, definitely one that would age well if a tidy one bought and minded well.



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  • #12
    selectamatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Land cruiser workmate troop carrier. Configured as a 5 seater. Not sure how clearing one as crew cab here would go though.

    They're a much neater machine compared to the double cab ones.



  • #13
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349240#Comment_122349240

    A little bit but might only stay the 6 months to a year so want to have a plan of action in place.

    I've work lined up and plenty of options if that doesn't work out, a few friends with the same qualifications are out there so I have a general idea of pay and job availability. Rent isn't cheap for sure but Melbourne isnt Sydney level crazy, Ireland is almost as bad as most places these days anyway!

    All valid points but cars are pretty saleable if things change for the worst!



  • #14
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349457#Comment_122349457

    Always brings visions of the UN to mind when I see one!



  • #15
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,668 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    do the land cruisers in oz meet the EU emissions regulations, sure i read somewhere they don't, which is why they arent sold here

    My weather

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  • #16
    goochy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭goochy


    There are landcruiser pick ups and amazons bring brought in from oz by dealers here in small numbers . Blanch 4x4 have had a few



  • #17
    selectamatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349563#Comment_122349563

    Most don't. Certainly the un spec ones don't. But it doesn't matter as long as it's a used vehicle.

    Regulations apply to the sale of new vehicles.



  • #18
    teediddlyeye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭teediddlyeye


    HSV maloo, easy to commercially tax being a pickup.

    Theres enough land cruisers, evos etc. here already.

    "I never thought I was normal, never tried to be normal."- Charlie Manson



  • #19
    Whatwicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Whatwicklow


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349123#Comment_122349123

    It's the vrt saving I'd expect is the main saving / motivation.



  • #20
    Montage of Feck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    "The last of the V8's" Ford Falcon xb!

    🙈🙉🙊



  • #21
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    another factor, will this be your only car? If so then consider you are going on a once in a life time adventure to a massive country, get a car that will give you the freedom to take road trips from Melbourne



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  • #22
    ferg01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭ferg01


    I’m bias because I love land cruisers but just in case you can’t bring in a commercial version, high spec ones will sell easily on non commercial registrations. I’m always lurking in DoneDeal and the good ones go very quickly.

    Great problem to have by the way - I’d do the exact same if I was heading off!



  • #23
    yagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭yagan


    Wouldn't it just be cheaper to import from Japan?

    Edit to add these guys have a great channel for used cars on the Aussie market.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqzmz2ti1HI&ab_channel=ReDriven


  • #24
    Whocare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Whocare


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349123#Comment_122349123

    I deliver shipping containers lot of cars coming in shipping containers from Australia ect from people moving back to Ireland. Just need vehicle well straped down never seen one yet damaged inside container . Shipping cost most people are moving back after few years so all other stuff in container aswell and might aswell fill the container up with car ect



  • #25
    Marcusm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,760 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122349462#Comment_122349462

    it only works if you change your residence. 6months will be insufficient and 12 months will only work if you leave before 29 January in the year you go.



  • #26
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Just check the insurance of the car brought back.

    Some insurance companies will not insure imported cars from outside the UK. I have an VW car imported from Aus and was refused insurance by one company because of this - even though it was built in Germany.

    Also, get a vehicle that is available in Ireland, with a high end trim.



  • #27
    TheDamIrish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭TheDamIrish


    Very tempted by the new 79 series land cruiser with the 2.8l engine

    Are you planning to pay in cash for this $85K Land Cruiser?
    Doubt any Aussie bank is going to approve you on a significant loan if you are on a WH visa or haven't resided there with a stable income for at least 18 months.

    And when you leave Oz, you will have to settle any outstanding loan balances to be able to export the car. So most likely, the value of any car you buy without financing will not be worth the hassle of shipping it home.

    Although, if you do have a few bin liners full of cash(in the bank…) heading over to Oz, then totally disregard this!

    Post edited by TheDamIrish on


  • #28
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,368 ✭✭✭User1998


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353377#Comment_122353377

    Or they could simply have money in the bank? ..



  • #29
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122350409#Comment_122350409

    I would be in australia and have the use of the vehicle whilst there is addition to the savings on transfer of residence if available to me would be the main reasons. If going for a 79 series they are sold in very few markets although I do think the new series is available in japan now that think of it.



  • #30
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122351822#Comment_122351822

    thanks for the heads up on that, wasn't aware of that rule previously.



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  • #31
    yagan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353911#Comment_122353911

    I like that model but when we lived there the only cars I was tempted to buy to bring back was something unique to Oz like ute, or one of their 70s mussle cars. They were cheap to buy about 20 years ago but they've gone way up now.



  • #32
    Marcusm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,760 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353922#Comment_122353922

    it’s the most basic aspect - the exemption is available to persons transferring their residence to Ireland. If you go abroad for such a short period of time, you retain your Irish residence and are thus not in a position to transfer it to Ireland!



  • #33
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,253 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122354049#Comment_122354049

    And a working holiday visa in Australia is almost by definition not a transfer of residence, but an activity of definite duration.



  • #34
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    What classifies as residence then? Would you essentially have to have permanent residence in a country?



  • #35
    Charles Babbage
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122383323#Comment_122383323

    These mechanisms are designed for people who move more or less permanently, and take their stuff with them. The Revenue know rightly that people go to Australia on visas which do not allow you move there but are just an extended trip.



  • #36
    hoodie6029
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    Most people that I know who have gone out there, never come back. I know one guy who turned down taking over a large farm to stay there.

    You may be getting ahead of yourself with planning on bringing a car back!

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



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  • #37
    MF290
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    Back daydreaming again.

    Given the TOR is no longer a runner what are the costs on importing to Ireland. Is it just vrt and shipping or would I be liable for vat and customs similar to the new rules for the UK?



  • #38
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,595 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122554537#Comment_122554537

    You would be charged Duty, then VAT, then VRT. Same as it has always been for imports from non-EU countries.

    Afaik, Duty will be charged on (purchase cost plus shipping and insurance).

    Then VAT will be charged on the new total.

    Then VRT on the OMSP as determined by Revenue (**not** on the purchase price).

    Post edited by Esel on

    Not your ornery onager



  • #39
    User1998
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122555058#Comment_122555058

    This is correct



  • #40
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    It would be a dreadful mistake to bring a car back from Australia and have to pay full duty, customs and VAT and the VRT.

    It would be wise to verify the situation before committing to the expenxe.



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