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Romance scams

  • 06-07-2024 6:53pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 16


    I was watching a Romance scam documentary on YT by Mariana van Zeller and I was struck by how stupid some people can be to send tens of thousands to a complete stranger. I also saw a few on Dr. Phil and they all seemed like normal non-mentally ill/disabled adults.

    Someone said the explanation might cultural and that's probably true as most of these cases seem to come from America. Perhaps the "naive American" stereotype holds true.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Plenty of those scams here too.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/garda-issue-warning-over-online-32117145

    In romance, people often do not use their full logical brain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Deub


    Don’t say they are stupid. These scammers target people that are not in the right place mentally at that particular time. It can happen to anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Yes, preying on people at a vulnerable time in their life. Mocking them makes it harder for victims to come forward, and easier for the scammers to get away with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 cathodrays


    In my opinion, it's hard to have sympathy for someone who gives money to someone they have never met.

    I can understand giving away large amounts of money to a friend/family member/acquaintance as people generally have a strong sense of trust in those they're close to, but a complete stranger seems a bit crazy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,103 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Romance itself is a scam.

    Just ask Melania and her with all me money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,281 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    The funniest is when they have given almost everything they own to someone they have not even video chatted to as a way to verify they actually exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Deub


    Because you are not in their mental state so it looks too obvious to fall for it. However, for some people, the loss of a family member, depression, stress at work and someone comes in your life, saying the right things and you miss all the flags.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,502 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    People bought gamer girl bathwater. Openly a scam yet they did it anyway. I'd be more concerned with punishing scammers than turning on the victims.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,438 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    When you're horny or desperate for "romance", you're using the primitive part of your brain and not thinking rationally. Any man who has gone more than 2 hours since his most recent w@nk is liable to make a poor decision. Women also make poor decisions e.g. many women are attracted to and date men known for violent thuggery - then the women are somehow shocked when the violent thuggery is used on them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    Some people are blue pilled and don't want to accept the true nature of this world. This is why many people hate incel culture, they want to believe that the world is all sunshine and rainbows and that they will meet "the one". The average woman on Tinder has hundreds of matches so you shouldn't even bother playing the game if you are below 7/10 in looks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,366 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    I've never given a single dime to anyone woman, and never will.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    Someone told me once about their experience of being in a relationship with someone online who he had never met. She wasn't from Ireland but from somewhere which believed that all Irish men were handsome fellows with a sexy brogue that turned all the women into puddles, and carried pots of gold under their arms. He explained how she would ask him to sing Danny boy over the phone which made her all a quiver to the point of ecstatic pleasure. When I asked how did he know she wasn't faking it he replied, "oh *wink, you just know". I don't know how much he paid for the privilege but clearly it wasn't enough.

    That was the day I realised our existence was more than likely just a coincidence in the greater scheme of things.

    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    If you are this stupid you deserve to be ripped off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less




  • Registered Users Posts: 177 ✭✭whitelaurel


    that’s not true tbh. Plenty of people in no way would send a person they haven’t met thousands of euro. Some types of scams could happen to everyone though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    I had to tell this man I was gay because he believed he was in a relationship with me. For ten years. I did seek legal advice and spent years in therapy and counselling but most people see him as the victim, in a real baby reindeer kind of way. A harmless gorm.

    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less


    I don't know about that now...I just thought it was funny how he was sure she came after he sang Danny Boy down the phone lol 🤣😆🤣

    So it was you? Not 'someone'? 😮😲



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    No no, I would have encouraged him to go out and meet people, and to try dating sites but obviously he had prior experience with working girls. I think he genuinely believes that it's ok for women to be bought for certain purposes. I know it is a bit sad but there's a bit of a culture around it in his circles. It's hard to feel sorry for that though.

    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less


    Try to veer him off from singing Danny Boy down the phone to get her off tho...I take that as a personal insult to Irish people 😆😂😆😆🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    I was a bit sceptical because the only singing he ever did was on the terraces. Imagine ten bottles and the wail of ynwa at full time. Can't for the life of me imagine how his rendition of the ballad went down.

    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less


    It's stuck in my head now anyway 🤣😆🎶🎶



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭jj880


    Take a look round your locality. Romance scams happening everywhere. I have friends that chose absolute weapons when they were young and stuck it out. Others were afraid of being left on the shelf and panicked. Theres 1 that babysits the kids every weekend while the partner hits the drink and nose bag Thursday thru Tuesday. Divorce is threatened roughly every 6 months but it'll never happen. If that's not a scam I don't know what is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    The operative word there is chose. I have no sympathy for people who decided that they enjoyed being with someone enough to the degree of entering into the contract of marriage, possibly having kids and then regretting it all ten years later. Hardly a scam when there's literally no obligation to get married or be in a relationship with anyone.

    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,438 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Yes, and those scams are far more damaging and difficult to recover from than a more straightforward scam where someone asks for money and then disappears.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭ruth...less




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭jj880


    I would love to give it the wise old sage and say I wouldve spotted all red flags at a younger age. Im not so sure though. Easy looking back now. People are very duplicitous when theres a potential ring to go on a finger. In the example I gave above there were no blockbuster drug and booz benders before marriage. Sure the term "scam" is up for debate but I'll tell you I thank my lucky stars for my wife every day. She is an angel from heaven compared to what Ive seen up close through people Ive known since our teenage years.



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