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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,552 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Thanks. This was exactly my point but I was writing it at a bus station. A state like Oregon gets a Senator for a hundred or two hundred thousand people. California gets one per 24 million. It makes the UK look like democratic utopia.

    I daresay that if I googled how many Americans support a woman's right to choose and tallied that against the composition of both houses of Congress, I'd be unpleasantly surprised.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,421 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Can also look at it like this, people in Wyoming get 1 senator per 290,000 persons.

    California gets 1 per 19,000,000.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Redacted Circular


    Either Joe goes or it's hail President Tump.

    That's the reality and all the coping in the world will not change that.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 5,928 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Fair enough, I missed the point ancap was making and jumped to the wrong conclusion based on the line I quoted. My bad.

    So the point I was making was irrelevant as a response to ancap's post I quoted, but it is not irrelevant to the discussion of the US election and Biden's bid to get reelected:

    Political elites think they know better than the electorate and are then surprised if the electorate has the cheek to disagree with them at the ballot box.

    The electorate, including registered Democrats, have shown in extensive polling for past few years that they don't think Biden should run again, their principal concern being he is too old for another four year term in such a demanding job.

    The Democratic party have totally ignored what the electorate think and pressed on with Biden regardless, presumably because they believe they know better.

    That strategy is currently looking to be a risky one.

    But nobody should be surprised by that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,421 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    this isn’t true really either.

    See you may have forgot but they ran a primary against Biden (GOP canceled their own 2020 primary, all hail king Trump see) and lo and behold despite these fabled polls, the voters let Joe run away with the vote by a very high margin too. Can you even remember the names of his opponents? Who really backed them? Nobody else stepped up to the plate and it was an open field.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭brickster69


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,290 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 5,928 ✭✭✭hometruths


    You're correct, I cannot remember the names of his challengers, presumably as they were non-entities. Nobody credible wished to challenge him since he was an incumbent president.

    That's been the norm. If you want a future tilt at the nomination, don't challenge the incumbent.

    Before Biden announced his plans to seek reelection there was plenty of evidence and discussion about the polls showing the majority did not wish for him to stand again.

    Perhaps if the Democratic party had used their influence at that point to encourage to bow out with dignity, there would be less discussion now about the idea of forcing him out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Really, so you mean Biden administration is as bad as the Trump administration ?

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,290 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Trump even had a press secretary that gave no press conferences, so I'm looking for the post of yours saying that's perfectly normal but it can't be found



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭rogber


    He did quite a good job actually but the Republicans will support anyone the democrats oppose, hence their love for Putin



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,421 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    again: who?

    Name one person who would challenge him in a primary and ought to have run and had a chance at winning the election?

    Nobody. There is nobody with the name recognition or the base or the ability to win nationally. And the primaries confirmed that.

    Whatever name you got jiggling around in your head, it’s easy to figure out party elitism isn’t why they didn’t run. Just do the math and whatever.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 5,928 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Isn't that the point of whole primary process? To build name name recognition, a base, and test their performance under the spotlight to see if the have the ability to win nationally, and an opportunity for polling etc..

    If early 2023 Biden hadn't announced he was running for reelection, credible challengers would have emerged in that process, and the winner of the nomination would have the name recognition, the base and the ability to win nationally.

    Are you genuinely claiming that the party could not have found a single other candidate with the ability to beat Trump, other than the guy who the overwhelming majority have doubts about whether he is physically and mentally capable of carrying out the job for a four year term.

    If that's the case then the Dems have deeper problems than just the decline of Biden.

    They're now between a rock and a hard place, probably their only choice is to force Biden to stand down in favour of Harris.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,416 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Anyway, thanks to press overload there are more signs of Biden being asked/told to step aside.

    What do ye think?

    Will he do it?

    If he will, who will replace?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,065 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well as regards ego, they certainly seem to be on par.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,523 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    They were discussing this on RTE's This Week at lunchtime today. An American professor of politics based in Paris reckons Biden will step down in August, will be replaced by Kamala Harris and that she would be the best bet from the Democrat candidates of defeating Trump.



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