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Pizza ovens

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭hargo


    400 degrees isn't hot enough for Neopolitan pizza and looking at the pictures of the pizzas with the Lidl ad it shows. If you want something else it will probably be fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    Not quite hot enough but close enough when price is entered into the equation IMO. Expectations are realistic, but I'm sure it could bang out a reasonable pizza. Might not be an exact Neapolitan but 90euro! Time will tell I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    €89 u get a pizza whats in the picture..i think it will be similar to home oven..but do keep us posted how it does😃😃 . We may have a Ooni competitor 🫡🫡 if it goes to 400 in 15 mins



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    I doubt they were cooked in that oven...but time will indeed tell....hardly an Ooni competitor, it 89 euro from Lidl.... probably available for a few weeks per year at best.

    If it actually reaches 400C or above I'd call that a fair bit better than what a home oven can achieve. Well mine anyway.

    Other than the actual temp this oven may or may not reachmy other reservations are mainly the strange gas outlet positioning, 2 either side of a seemingly tight space may prove tricky, also the 1cm stone will likely require a bit more time than is ideal if wanting to cook a few pizzas back to back...

    I still reckon for the money its worth a punt...if it's crap I'll return it.

    Edit...picked up this morning. Burner is on 3 sides of oven not 2 as I anticipated.

    Post edited by M00lers on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Let the competition begin! 😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    I was curious about this - the French youtube review went into a lot of detail on some things (like checking for gas leaks etc), and very little on others - like showing the actual inside of the oven while it's on. Are you saying there's flames on the three sides? I'm guessing that will mean less turning. Very interested to hear how you get on - especially with reaching temperature, and turning - it looks small, so with flames on three sides I wonder will it be easy to burn the crusts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    My thoughts exactly. Yes, burner is on left back and right side...u shaped single continuous assembly. Burning crusts is a concern of mine also.....maybe turn down flames after launching?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    Had to buy a different gas regulator, supplied one was for butane I think....have a Patio gas cylinder I was hoping to use....so the 90 euro is now 105 euro.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Propane burns hotter so maybe you'll be able to get yours up to the 450 degree mark? Keep us posted!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭.red.


    I know with the ooni, you can't just swap the regulator and gas bottle from one gas to the other so be careful. I'm not sure why or what difference it makes but ooni say it's a big no no.

    Post edited by .red. on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    I'll have a closer look at manual later but it only says LPG, doesn't specify between Butane and Propane, I suppose the butane regulator is maybe what is intented to be used!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    Doing a quick test and burning off manufacturing funk and definitely hits 400C in 15mins ish. Temp still rising on a slightly breezy evening.

    Edit....very close to 450 after 25mins .

    Hit 450 a few minutes later....have to go out for the evening but I'm calling it hot enough.

    Post edited by M00lers on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    Pic

    of Pizza oven thermometer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Good stuff. Were you able to test the stone temperature with a thermometer gun by any chance?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    Yeah, was not too far away from oven temp reading. Maybe 10,20 30c degress less. Was seeing 420, 440 and more.

    Well that was a learning experience!!! Complete opposite of what people thought would be the issue…..I struggled to tame the heat of this yolk. Cannot take your eye of it for a second. Cooked 6 pizzas tonight with various degrees of success but can see myself getting better over time.

    i need to invest in a turning peel and a different paddle for launching..

    Space is definitely tight, 11" might be the way to go. Cannot fault it for the asking price…..pic below is not a perfect result but I'm sure people are interested in seeing what a 90 euro Lidl jobbie can do.

    Post edited by M00lers on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,806 ✭✭✭squonk


    Nothing wrong with that pizza. Looks tasty! Delighted it worked out well for you. €90 is a good price and, to be fair, unless you’re making pizzas every weekend, a few hundred tops might be as much worth spending. You have plenty left over for accessories and alibaba will cover peels etc as well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    Thanks, was an eye opening evening. I can see why a bigger oven would be useful.

    I struggled with a few things that could probably be rectified with appropriate tools and experience.

    A turning turning peel for sure would have helped control the cook. At times I was trying to remove pizza to turn it and hadn't the right tool for the job. Pulling it out and turning by hand wasn't much fun.

    A turning peel would have have helped massively also to raise the pizza closer to the "roof" to help finish the centre.

    Base was "perfectly" cooked but happened before centre was where I'd like it to be.

    A bit of tweaking to my technique and workflow and I've no doubt this cheap oven will more than suffice. Gets crazy hot very quickly….no exaggeration!

    Can't believe being too hot is an issue I'm having, pizza was cooking in what felt like seconds…. (Again I'm confident experience and a few accessories will resolve issues) didn't actually time anything, didn't have time!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    thanks M00lers, picked one up earlier this evening on the back of this post, and your further posts and results are encouraging!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭M00lers


    Good luck dude. Definitely a challenge but doable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,211 ✭✭✭893bet


    don’t waste money on turning peel. Tiny bit off practice and it will be easy pull it out with normal peel for a twist..



  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    I dunno, I love my turning peel. It's nice to be able to turn the pizza without removing it from the over at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭.red.


    I have one too and would have to agree with this post. A 12 inch oven with 11/12inch pizzas is too awkward to use the turning peel. I got the hang of it after a while but rarely use it now

    I use a wooden one for launching and a metal one for taking it out to turn and for retrieving.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭budgemook


    Turning peel is great, i was taking the pizza out to turn it before I got one. Got mine in Lidl so it was cheap anyway. Still regret not getting the perforated peel at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    tried it out today - lets just say practice will make perfect eventually.

    15 mins to 350c, 23 to 400c

    400c is too high for dunnes pre-prepped pizzas, and they're possibly an inch too big for it.

    reduced heat to 300c for the third one, that seems to be the sweet spot.

    still hard to keep up with 15 second turning though - maybe using the launch, out-turn-back in might be better and cook it over 2 rather than 1 minute.

    still tasted better than from normal oven (after cutting off the burndy outer rim!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭.red.


    We had pizzas both days over the weekend. First lot for yesterday were cold proofed for 4 days in the fridge like i usually do and 4 hours at room temp. Second lot were done on a whim this morning with a lot more yeast and just a 5 hour room temp proof. My first time doing it this way. The difference was unreal. The crust was a lot more bready/chewy and very little colour or leoparding. The base didn't taste any different tho.

    It's handy to know I can do it that way and get decent results but if I can, I'll always do a much longer proof as you could literally taste and see the difference with the crust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    Odlums 00 is back at €2 in Dunnes..works out 1.6 with shopping vouchers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    Overfermented by sourdough loaf..so pizzas were made out of it !



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭budgemook


    Looks like Lidl have some peels again, but no perforated ones this time. At 9.99, they're a bargain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    They are fine barring long handles(you can always shorten them)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    They have one with a shorter handle that can be twisted out of the way for storage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Daeltaja


    Damn, I got a bag for €2.99 in Supervalu yesterday as they were out of 5 Stagioni/Caputo, which are a euro less :(

    On the subject of turning peels, I'd be lost without my Gozney peel. Ooni stones can get very hot and unpredictable, so after the first 20-30 sec of sitting still, I constantly rotate the pizza and lift it off the stone to stop it burning. I also find that you need to be really delicate with lifting the edge of pizza before to the first turn to ensure the whole base is cooked, otherwise you risk a nasty tear if the middle isn't ready! It's more work to manage the pizza, but I've found after 4 years of making them with various Oonis, it's required for consistency sake. I also had a biscotto stone for the Koda 12, which was an absolute game-changer, impossible to burn the base. Waiting for stock to come back in for the Karu.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭scuby


    Just bought the lidl gas one,based off the last comments, hit 320 after 10 mins and still going . just turned it on to burn off the new packaging smell etc. Will try it out properly tomorrow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Interesting one on the Ooni today. Cold chip shop chips. A couple of minutes and they are nicely charred and crispy.

    What’s left…….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,095 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭ablelocks




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭hargo


    First attempt with a sour dough pizza. Very pleased the flavour of the dough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭.red.


    That looks lovely, did you do the whole sourdough starter from scratch? I keep telling myself I'll try it but I'm not sure it's worth all the effort.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭hargo


    Very easy in the end. My son has a sourdough that he made a few years ago and he gave me about a shot glass amount which i brought over from London. Wasn't expecting it to work but i fed it twice and left it in the fridge "asleep" for two months. When I took it out it didn't look great but smelled ok so fed it a twice and it just took off. Kept some back for next time and used the remainder like a poolish and it worked really well. So now I have a constant supply of yeast.

    As far as I know my son just left some flour and water mix out for a few days and it took off slowly but once you have a starter it seems easy to keep it.



  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Something I used to do, and I must get back in the habit: one week I made my usual dough recipe but made 50g extra. I kept that 50g of dough in an airtight container in the fridge until the following week, when I added it to the standard dough mix. After the first proof I again stuck 50g in the fridge, and so on.

    It's not sourdough as such, but it does develop a rich sour flavour during the course of the week which I thought gave an interesting extra flavour note to the pizzas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Quick question for you, folks: I have a batch of Pizza Pilgrims dough in the fridge since yesterday. Obviously the balls have expanded overnight. The PP recipe doesn't call for the balls to be knocked back and reformed at any stage, but my instinct is telling me they need it. At what point would you do this - when they come out of the fridge for their last prove back up to room temp?

    TIA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭hargo


    don't know anything about PP dough but in this weather reforming dough balls out of the fridge should be ready for use in 2 to 3 hours .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,095 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    So I had the flame deflector the wrong way around all this time. Best batch Ive done on the Ooni - as its the first one with the deflector placed correctly. 😐️

    4 x pizzas

    Pepperoni, fennell, nduja

    Salami, garlic oil, burrata

    Bianco with smoked gouda, rosemary, red onion, honey

    Bianco with pecorino, mortadella, pistachio pesto, lemon zest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    I have no idea if my Ooni Flame Deflector is the right way round, or not. How do you find out? 🤯



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    Weak Yeast almost gave me a heart attack! Still good bakes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,095 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    When it falls off and you realised you inserted it from the flame side as opposed to the door side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    And how were your pizzas before?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,095 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Could be hit and miss as theyd burn very quickly



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,355 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    had a minor taste revelation last night - chimichurri is lovely on a pizza. had some we'd bought sitting in the fridge (not particularly potent) and lashed it on in the way i'd sometimes use pesto, and it worked really well.



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