Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Fair enough, I missed the point ancap was making and jumped to the wrong conclusion based on the line I quoted. My bad.

So the point I was making was irrelevant as a response to ancap's post I quoted, but it is not irrelevant to the discussion of the US election and Biden's bid to get reelected:

Political elites think they know better than the electorate and are then surprised if the electorate has the cheek to disagree with them at the ballot box.

The electorate, including registered Democrats, have shown in extensive polling for past few years that they don't think Biden should run again, their principal concern being he is too old for another four year term in such a demanding job.

The Democratic party have totally ignored what the electorate think and pressed on with Biden regardless, presumably because they believe they know better.

That strategy is currently looking to be a risky one.

But nobody should be surprised by that.

You're correct, I cannot remember the names of his challengers, presumably as they were non-entities. Nobody credible wished to challenge him since he was an incumbent president.

That's been the norm. If you want a future tilt at the nomination, don't challenge the incumbent.

Before Biden announced his plans to seek reelection there was plenty of evidence and discussion about the polls showing the majority did not wish for him to stand again.

Perhaps if the Democratic party had used their influence at that point to encourage to bow out with dignity, there would be less discussion now about the idea of forcing him out.

Biden said, in 2019, he only really wanted to serve for one term.

This is exactly why he's so vulnerable with so many swing voters who have concerns about his age. Plenty were happy to vote for him in 2020 in the belief that his age was not a big issue, he'd get the necessary job done in seeing off Trump, and Dem's would find a successor for 2024.

They're rightly pissed off seeing him back on the ticket when they do think his age is an issue, even more so after his debate performance.

He didn’t formally announce a 2nd term run until mid 2023 (6 months after Trump did).

If someone else in the Democratic Party wanted to put their name forward, they have had plenty, plenty of notice. And plenty of time to put together a committee and all the normal things.

They didn’t, except for those few who tried, and lost the primary by overwhelming margins.

He may not have formally announced until mid 2023, but he told everybody he was considering running in early 2022. As soon as he did that, it was a warning shot that anybody going for the nomination would likely be challenging the incumbent. No serious challenger would do that.

So, therefore, this is all hot air from the shouldwouldacoulda blimp.

it's definitely shouldawouldacoulda stuff

The party leadership "should have" reminded Biden of his one term presidency chat, and discouraged him from running again.

If that had happened credible challengers "would have" emerged.

The nominee "could have" been closer to the convicted felon in the swing state polls four months out from the election.

Both Bill Clinton and Obama came out of nowhere through the primary system, beating party grandees but in both cases there was no incumbent to challenge. On the other hand no incumbent has lost nomination process since 1884.

Strong candidates do not challenge incumbents. It's politically naive to do so.