SA vs Ireland First Test 2024 - The World Champions vs The Best Team in the World

All of the fbs in the squad have been simularly "excluded"

Highlighting facts does 'really seem to have annoyed someone. 😂' (to quote your high quality post)

Zebo has retired and when you look at the level of fat he was carrying for a back three player, his notoriety for being a lazy trainer, and his body clearly breaking down (through missing time with injuries and dealing with cramps even when he played) I don't know how you can put up a debate to my other comment.

Good form or not, Haley couldn't beat that player out - which you would be expecting to play for Ireland, or even get into an Irish squad. That is 100% on Haley and justifies AF's previous judgement on him and why barring a miracle he wont get near playing for Ireland again in a meaningful match.

Feel that is a bit hyperbolic.

It probably is a penalty but you tend see something similar to this in most games, probably a dozen plus times when you're playing SA or their club sides when they're fully up for it - like the Bulls v Leinster in the semi.

It is one of the risks of playing such an undersized player when it comes to those types of collisions (pretty sure I've seen Faf come off badly also). The outcome of those incidents is multiplied on smaller players. The Koch clearout a few seconds later on Doris could have easily ended the same way but Doris has more ballast and luck of where his head landed.

As for the lack of remorse and concern for an opponent, that reaction is far from what I want to see from a player on my team. However, it and the high fives likely come from the full siege mentality Rassie has instilled within the Boks. Even presuming him and Casey are on good terms post Munster, Rassie has stated his aim is to have his players hating the opposition as they go onto the pitch so that reaction isnt at all surprising. It will always be wild to me how some here still look up to Rassie.

That's fair enough, I didn't know that.

I was wrong on the intentional part. Here's the video, the ball hits Kellehers knee, and then he move his foot backwards. He knew the ball was right there and he knew by moving his foot that direction would hit the ball. Claiming it wasn't intentional seems very far fetched.

What are you talking about? He’s in a practical chokehold by Le Roux, facing the complete opposite direction.

He’s not that dexterous or composed that he’s probably even fully aware of the direction he’s moving his right leg in in that incident as he’s simply trying to shrug off Willie le Roux who is hanging off his neck.

It is, at its most generous, a really marginal call, and in a game where there was shite and late clear outs and clear outs way past the ball happening at virtually every ruck, to go back for that and disallow a try is pure bullshit.
As I said, in the exact same ruck, Bundee Aki is latched on for ages - that’s ignored, Willie le Roux then flops off his feet over the ball (ignored) and then plainly and obviously neck rolls Kelleher (also ignored).

It’s a shocking decision.

I'm talking about Kelleher knew the ball was next to his leg and he has moved his leg towards the ball and he has knocked it back. If a player know where the ball is, and moves his legs towards the ball the claiming it wasn't done intentionally is a very big reach. For the ref to assume it wasn't intentional in the scenario would be very odd.

To overturn an onfield decision requires clear and obvious evidence. The only clear and obvious thing in that ruck was a neck roll on Kelleher.

Either the try stands as there is no clear and obvious evidence or it's an ireland penalty for foul play

FYI I never made the claim suggested in the post

Haley isn’t even in squad so not sure what the point of comment is in first place

if you see Whitehouse in action he loves those moment, he will miss all the obvious stuff but anything that makes him front and centre he is all over it

Adamson is as poor as Whitehouse. But, its not like we aren't used to this. Pick ourselves up and get stuck in.

Snyman injury issues started long before he went to Munster

Also, at least once if not more he has come back injured from duty with Boks to Munster, including post World Cup

Based on the video he was looking to nail Casey, maybe because of the celebrations a few mins before.

Did he mean to knock him out? I doubt it somehow.

In terms of playing for Leinster, he is signed and if fit he will be playing, mostly as a sub I would expect

It did it it's hole cost us, Pollard left more points behind than Crowley

I stayed away from here until I saw the match (tonight ), and I want to watch it (knowing the result) but without the group think from here and jaysus, the take on the game, the ref and certain players is nothing short of outrageous.

Ireland were poor, didn't get the rub of the green either but we lacked cohesion throughout the game. Overall it was a very disappointing game from Ireland, lots of players with a very mixed bag. Be interesting to see us turn it around next week.

Hopefully, Casey will be ok but he's tour is done now.