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The Great Big Lawnmower Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 333 ✭✭cathy427


    Wow!!! Thanks so so much for that - very much appreciated.

    I have been mulching every 6 or 7 days weather permitting and even at that there is a light line of clippings on the lawn.

    Do you reckon I would be better with one of those deflectors than the mulching plug? I just have the normal blade and a mulching plug.

    On a quick search the genuine ones seem €96

    Mine is a xdc 150 - this one says it fits a xdc 140 and I think the 150 has same deck. https://lawnmowerpartsonline.ie/product/castelgarden-deflector-kit-for-32-deck-2999003100?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_pDgs_PVhgMVL5JQBh3TsAnUEAQYASABEgJEV_D_BwE

    Or this one (spurious) prob do job at €78 with delivery (edit = I missed the vat so both are same price)

    https://eurosmallengineparts.ie/castelgarden-xdc140-xdc140hd-mountfield-1430-1530-stiga-grass-deflector-84cm-32-inch-299900310-0

    Thanks so much again.

    Post edited by cathy427 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    It's worth a punt, (or even some €), on dry weather it's perfect, it forces the clippings down for a better finish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    I have done the same, was actually recommended to me when I bought it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,130 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    You aren't going to get rid of that line of dry clippings with the cow horn (deflector). Ideally to mulch as deezell says you need mulching blades which lift and cut the grass at the edges then chop the grass a bit more as it gets forced down by the reverse action of the blade further in. This explains it

    another

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 333 ✭✭cathy427


    Thanks for that. Great resource.

    I am not going to get into swaping blades (as would likely have to swap back if missed a cut cause of weather or holidays etc and start and end of season) so hoping deflector will spead the dry clippings over a wider area.

    Normally its only a light line - if it heavy then I collect it.

    Cool. Thanks yet again for all the help and advice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭mountainy man


    Hi guys,

    The petrol cap on my Husqvarna ride on came loose and I managed to reverse over it and obliterate it, does anyone know where I can get a replacement from?

    I have googled and looked on more sites but cannot find anything referring to my model which is a Husqvarna YTH23V48, I don't know if these are fairly standard on husky riders or if mine is an unusual model but am getting nowhere, the filler hole is about 3 inches in diameter.

    Thanks in advance

    Denis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    A search here produces part no. 532439208.

    https://www.jackssmallengines.com/jacks-parts-lookup/manufacturer/husqvarna/tractors-ride-mowers/yth23v48-96043017500-2013-09/engine

    Searching this no. produces a lot of US results, suggesting this is a cap for US market emissions regulations. There are multiple identical husky caps with varying similar part numbers. This one is probably a fit with similar Husky part nos, but contact them and maybe sent a pic of the tank screwtop with dimensions.

    https://lawnmowerpartsonline.ie/product/ayp-husqvarna-fuel-cap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    This part no. is used in earlier (2010) models of YTH 2348, 23V48.

    584248702

    This no. gets some hits this side of the pond, such as;

    https://newgardenstore.eu/en/tank-caps/52158-Tank-cap-for-lawn-tractor-compatible-HUSQVARNA-584248702.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭mountainy man


    Thanks deezell,

    Those give me something to go on, yes I bought it from a guy who brought it with him from the states, I guess that is where my problem is. I'll contact Lawnmower parts online with the size and see if that on fits or maybe they could order one before I contact the people in Italy.

    I'm very grateful that you took the time to look it up.

    Thanks again

    Denis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Thanks, I finally got to test and the engine turned, any idea what or where the solenoid is on the Viking 5112z :-)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭tombrown


    Just got back to my mower as I've been away for a few weeks. Opened up the hood and was checking all electrical connections when I noticed some evidence of fuel leakage. On closer examination I found the hose in this picture (off the bottom of the carb air inlet hose) was disconnected. Not electrical, but do you think that could have been the source of my issues.

    EDIT: Just fired her up & cut the grass with no issues, so something sorted the electrical problem. Whether it was this or just tightening up all the connections I don't know. However I must have had this hose disconnected for some time as the mower has been a bitch to get started this year - often having to turn her over for 30 seconds or so before she'd catch, but, once I fixed the hose, she started first time with no problem

    Post edited by tombrown on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    Crankcase vent hose. When it falls off, splits, breaks, it affects mixture and choke on start, making running erratic and starting poor. Exhaust gases, unburnt fuel and oil vapour seem to eat these, the rubber or synthetic they're made of gets brittle, and they fall off easily. Its a common problem, gets missed easily. Cars, mowers, chainsaws, generators are among the ones I've replaced over the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Hi folks.

    Has anyone had any great success in getting parts for the woodies pro lawn branded mowers?

    My self drive has stopped working, sounds like the cogs have worn out as it's just makes a grinding noise when uou engage the drive.

    I adjusted the cable but this didnt help

    I noticed it struggling a bit lately on slight inclines so was probably on its way out.

    I'm pretty sure the pro lawn models are just some Chinese generic model which is probably identical to some others.

    I will take a few pics of the mower and remove the drive cogs later to see if there is any salvage possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    So it turns out the v belt had come off the crankshaft pulley.

    I have sorted that, but there is still some grinding, it drives but doesn't feel solid if that makes sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Some pics



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,130 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Belt may have stretched, worn thin or the pully may be worn? Are there any spots on the belt where it is slightly thinner than others?

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    It might be the pinion gears inside the wheels rather than the transfer gears in the drive shaft gearbox. These rarely wear, the cable operated friction clutch inside is more likely to wear out after considerable use. The pinions in the rear wheels have a sliding pin ratchet mechanism to allow different wheel speed when turning. These can stick, or the ratchet cams inside the pinions can get worn causing the pins to slip. Take off the rear wheel cover, unbolt the wheel and slide off. All will be revealed. Remove the pinion circlip, the the pinion and pin. Clean thoroughly. The pin should move freely. Don't grease or oil, this will attract dust and make the pins stick. Inspect the inside of the pinion, there are three curved cams. The face of these should be straight. Typically they look like this, left and right handed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    Or this



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Thanks for that, I'll have a look later today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Sponsorgate


    looking for recommendation on a battery powered lawnmower. Lawn takes about 25 min to mow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭ShadowSA




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Have a small Worx which is handle as robot and other items(drill, strimmer etc) all have same battery



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Any easy/quick way to sell a tractor lawnmower or just stick it on donedeal? do any companies offer trade in without buying a new one? I guess probably not



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Thats it, I got it at end of year sale for 200 quid a few years back, it does the job but one blade with only one side if you know what I mean so not great

    Will end up buying a bigger one soon

    The strimmer is great



  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭gillamandango


    Looking for something for a site I am involved with. Big garden, with steep slopes. I was looking at something like HUSQVARNA AUTOMOWER® 535 AWD but see they also do HUSQVARNA AUTOMOWER® 550 EPOS which seems newer positioning tech.

    Any other ideas what else, similar spec, could be got for similar money or cheaper!

    Slopes would be verging on 45' in places and probably 1.5acres



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    I read that the automowers are limited to a slope of 50%, thats how Husqvarna measure the angle, which is a slope of 26.6°, 1 in 2. A 45° slope is 100% by that reckoning. The 353 4 wheel drive claims 35°, 70%, or 7 up in 10 horizontal forward, (TAN 35°, to bring you back to school maths). I don't know if there's any thing other than the tracked robotic things I've seen being used on road embankments than might best these, but 45° would require an extraordinary low center of gravity not to tip over, especially given that the rotating mass of the motor and blade might be inclined to flip the mower on a certain perpendicular turn, like a gyro, if you were using it left to right. You'd definitely need 4 wheel drive if you mowed up and down a 45° slope, and I think you'd need tracks, it would probably just slide down on damp grass. Any chance you could get a demo? Husky info below.

    https://www.husqvarna.com/ie/support/husqvarna-self-service/how-to-optimise-an-automower-robotic-lawn-mower-installation-for-steep-slopes-ka-01431/



  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Bedouin79


    lads since my zero turn discussion is being rightfully ignored for not posting here. I’ll gingerly ask for advice or experience with zero turn mowers pro cons etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,130 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Great if you have the time to wizz around a site on a regular bases. Often no collection and not mulchers so needs regular cutting before the grass gets too long but fast cutting makes that easy. I'd love one on my odd shaped site but I'd have to cut every week and maybe occasionally more often to keep it looking really good. Con is price for a good one is a more than a similar sized bagging ride on.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    Generally more expensive and mostly non baggers, if that's an issue. True zero turn are distinct from front mounted deck mowers, and the former are more expensive due to the wheel drive needed to spin on its axis. Both have the advantage of cutting the grass prior to heavy front wheel compression of a ride on, so a true cut is achieved. Husqvarna do an optional collector bag. Some are well priced in comparison to equivalent cut width ride on, the Snapper 48" is in the region of Stihl/AlKo 48" ride on, if you shop around. The commercial quality ones can turn overgrown grass to powder, but as @The Continental Op says, unless it has mulching ability, you might mow more often.



  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Bedouin79


    thank you gents. Interesting take on the true cut Deezell has thought of it that way. You both on price and a collection bag is handy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭bakerbhoy


    Have the 48'' snapper.

    Use a different drive belt (spz/spa profile) than the one supplied for the blades. It can deal with longer grass effectively, if it gets away on you.There is a finer mulching set up available than standard.

    Have not aquired it as yet.

    It can deal with strong growth and when you maintain the grass down low , it gives superb results. Generally very happy with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    Blade belts should be SPA profile (13wx10d) on ride ons, (SPZ or SPZX (cogged) are extensively used on walk behind wheel drive belts). SPA are better tgan standard A due to the clutching when blade engaging, either by electric or jockey wheel. They're an extra 2mm deeper than standard A Vee of 13x8. The clutching can twist the shallower belt, or pull a chunk from it if its not a wrapped belt. It will wear quicker too, slip under load and wear the pulleys.

    Fully wrapped SPA can be expensive as a genuine part, but reputable engineering suppliers like Fox engineering or Reliance will have SPA in the exact size for your machine. Some of these are rare, slightly off standard, such as the SPA1507 used in the Stihl/Viking/Alko 48" synchronous decks. These belts are often priced at €60+ as a genuine part. A standard Vee belt might be a tenth of that but won't last. I paid €15 in Fox for an exact SPA1507 match to the original part no. belt. Mower manufacturer use part nos. and odd sizes to obfuscate and make it difficult to get fair priced equivalents. Try finding the actual size of the Stihl 61707042150 belt. It's never printed on the old one. (Its technically 1507 by 12.7mm wedge)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭bakerbhoy


    €30 or there abouts. My work envolves replacing these items so have decent sources. Second season on this belt..

    Not at home so could not verify exact profile… be it Z or A..

    Original was soft as hell and lasted no time…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    Probably someone stuck on a cheap A profile belt. You'd get away with it, but heavy loading would eat it, and clutch starts would bite a lump out of it. I've literally just replaced my blade belt with a proper wrapped equivalent, I previously replaced it with an Internet one which was SPA profile but not wrapped (bare rubber visible on the sides between the top and inner cord plys). It lost it's mojo fairly rapidly after a season, couldn't keep it up in heavy cutting and would slip. There was a barely attached chunk on the inner hanging off, so time to change. I was dropping the deck anyway to replace the steering rack and pinion. My own fault, I neglected to grease it, the grease I could see on it was actually congealed with dust and not lubricating the teeth. The pinion teeth on Stihl/Viking/Alko/MTD and some others is helical cut, its sliding vertically past the rack teeth when you steer, so a dry pinion will eat the rack. Check out the old ones, all chewed up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I have a Hayter R53S - given me a good 10 years of loyal service until now. Starts fine but idles and cuts out once I hit any any grass more than an inch tall. Did some basic maintenance (checked carb, oil, air filter, blade balance etc.) but haven't replaced anything yet. I figured out that revs increase sufficiently to cut even really tall grass when I push the governer. So I wedged it in place temporarily to get the crass cut but obviously I'd prefer to have a better solution than a fudge.

    Any advice on next steps would be much appreciated.



  • Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Poulgorm


    Technical query: I have a Castelgarden XDC 150 (33 inch cut), bought new, June last year. Great mower - so much faster than the walk behind I had.

    Because of shrubs & trees in the garden, I have to reverse quite a lot. To cut while reversing, I have to lean forward to keep the reversing button pressed and then steer it with one hand - all while looking backwards. This is very awkward (at my age, at least).

    I found a solution - use a thin pin to keep the reversing button permanently pressed in - now I can cut and steer while reversing with a lot less effort & much more comfort. The reversing button stays pressed in even when I am moving forward.

    Apart from any safety issue, am I causing any damage to the mower by keeping that reversing button permanently jammed in?

    Thanks, in advance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    That's poor logic. Generally the reverse button negates the blade cutoff in reverse, but should prevent cutting out of the blade on release, until you stop and reselect reverse the next time. On the stihl its a foot button, but again no need to hold it down, a quick press when selecting reverse disables the blade cutoff till the next time. Check the manual, see if it can be configured to remain cutting after release,if pressed just before reverse is selected. Otherwise wire it to a foot button if your left foot hasn't got pedal to contend with.



  • Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Poulgorm


    To clarify, when reversing, if I release the reversing button while the blades are are engaged, the engine cuts out immediately. By permanently jamming the reverse button in place, it solves this problem, with no obvious downside to the operation of the machine. Having the reversing button pressed seems to have no impact when driving forward.

    Or is there some negative impact that I am not aware of?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Poulgorm


    The manual is no help - both the manual provided with the machine or the online one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    I've checked out the manual, it's as simple as you say, hold it down. Out of curiosity, check if it disables other blade cutout actions, such as standing up off the seat, lifting the bag etc. Regardless of these, you might be better off to replace it with a switch. I've checked the parts, it a simple single pole push switch, I'm not sure if it's push to make (close contacts) or push to break (open). It appears to be just push fitted in. If you prise it out and measure the cutout hole, then replace it with an ordinary toggle or rocker switch or perhaps a push to make push to break toggle. Here the spares image of your reverse switch, (£42!)

    You could replace it with a push fit rocker switch from an autopart shop, something like this one from The Range,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    Cutting out under load usually means fuel starvation. There's enough fuel from the idle jet to run, but not enough when under load. That you can get it to remain running by wedging the governor seems to indicate that the increase in vacuum overcomes the fuel drought.

    Drain and check that there is no dirt in the bottom of the fuel bowl. Blow out or run a fine wire through any fuel jets. An aerosol of carb clean or ERG clean is useful also. If there's an inline filter from the fuel tank, check the flow and replace if it's blocked.

    Clean the air filter if it's a sponge type, if it's a paper type check it's not blocked with dirt. Check that the crankcase breather hose is not loose, broken or split. Excess air through this reduces the mixture below critical levels.

    Be careful wedging the governor, excess speed not good and if you put pressure against the actual lever preventing it from closing the throttle, this will induce wear on the governor centrifuge inside the engine at speed, and it could break apart.



  • Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Poulgorm


    Thank you so much, Deezell, for your research. Keeping the reversing switch jammed in does not interfere with other safety features (getting off the seat or lifting off the bag).

    Yes, I will follow your recommendation to replace it with a toggle switch. It's a neater solution to the problem. And cheap!

    Thanks again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    You're a star Deezell - really appreciate that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭leinster93


    Looking for self propelled lawnmower for a fairly large garden with a budget of €400.

    Would anyone have any recommendations?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭maidhc


    Anyone have any experience of the powerflow bagger on larger Deere ride ons?

    same as this machine:

    https://www.machinefinder.com.mx/ww/en-US/machines/2021-john-deere-x380-tractor-9889901

    Or is it better to go for a diesel kubota or such with rear discharge?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭deezell


    I've no experience of blower mowers, but all mowers use the blades as a fan to blow the grass into the bag. The mower in that (American?) ad you tagged is nothing special, aside from the side blower and the extra width of the deck at 58", the mower itself is a basic ride on frame, 23 hp engine and rear wheel drive

    The 50" Stihl 6127 or Alko with same size engine would be a more affordable option at €6500 . Around 10-11 grand here for the 48" JD, the bigger 54" deck would surely add an extra 500, and the powered side bagger €2-2.5K. The wider cut does not have a larger engine, so will cut at roughly the same max rate.

    Its a domestic mower, you'll get some commercial quality for a spend of €12-13 grand. You'd get two of the 50" Stihl 6127zl for that, with massive build quality, but not a lot of Kubota

    Post edited by deezell on


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