Pubs and Clubs to get longer opening hours

I think there’s some confusion here. Someone asked how would we get the Gardai to police the new opening hours, I said they should be told to go out and do what you’re paid for, on the shift you’re scheduled for?

You would imagine so. Instead of every person in Dublin flung out at the same time, I reckon with a staggered closing time it would be a lot easier to manage. A few quick response cars dealing with various incidents at different times rather than having to control everything all at once.

The very very simple solution then is to not stay open for the extended hours if you don't have the staff.

Allowed opening hours are not mandatory opening hours and it's time the Irish copped on to this.

As for transport the public transport already finishes before nightclubs so that won't need to change and taxies are already 24 hour.

The reason people drink at home is because of cost of drink iñ pubs, restaurants and clubs..Ya the odd late house party may not happen but in general longer opening hours means dearer pints so it encourages more home drinking.

The other reason drinking moved from ordinary pubs to houses is atmosphere, because of drink driving laws ( and I am not complaining about them) people who drove to work had either to stop drinking later in the night nearer closing time and as pubs were quite between 7-9pm they tend to have a few cans at home.

30+ years ago the difference between a can bought in and off licence and a pint was miniscule now its a minimum of half the price and can be as low as a quarter or a third.

A bottle of wine in a restaurant is 2-4 times the price in an off licience

In Australia they have 'responsible serving of alcohol' laws, if they send punters out paralytic they're held responsible for any harm they do to themselves or others.

When was the last time you ever saw someone in Ireland refused a drink, in what the vintners' associations like to smugly call a "controlled environment" ?

BTW Australia is the country that used to have the "six o'clock swill" where it was thought, by social control freaks, that strictly limiting drinking hours would reduce harm. It did precisely the opposite.

Ah the poor ol gaurds. Doing perfectly cognitive people in the late hours of the morning after having a drink the night before. But letting drunk drivers weave round the roads late at night cause theyre all tooked up in bed. Poor ol deveils. God help them

It's Australia that is wrong by practically all accounts I have heard.

My own experience would be in Canada not Australia but they have similar strict laws and it's an absolute joke. 3 pints and you are deemed drunk. Fellas wanting to drink and not eat are considered wild alcoholics.

I've refused plenty out of Irish pubs and having someone drunk on premises is a terrible stress and only a dive would let it off.

Fair enough.

I certainly wouldn't believe the VFI on anything as they are just a lobby group. I don't really think the new law will move the dial on drunkenness either way but it will be better for the vast majority of people who are normal responsible drinkers. I just don't see any justification for the current laws and even if the late opening is stripped extinguishment really needs to happen regardless.

I've been to Malaysia and Indonesia , two Muslim countries, especially Indonesia. Both with less restrictive drinking laws. I'd love to know what involvement the church has in groups like alcohol action ireland, and the others intent on making it as expensive and restrictive as possible.

one of the most ridiculous comparisons I have ever heard. Well done

Who knows

I doubt our leader Simon Harris is fond of an auld pint.

Covid showed that

They want to be martyrs who got rid of the 'drunken paddy' image

You have a point there.

There is indeed a big difference between a drink in a pub and a drink at home.

It's one of life's great pleasures to settle into a good well run pub and have your pint pulled by a friendly barman.

We do them well in Ireland.

But the publicans couldn't leave it at that and stick to their trade.

They campaigned to interfere with people enjoying a drink in their own home.

It’s not “1 in a million”. The hyperbole on this thread is off the charts.

The clubs deserve to die. They are utter crap that people go to because they have to thanks to the law.

The market is clearly there for pubs to open later because it is impossible to get people out of them at closing time and into the crappy club they don't want to go to.

It's the 6am thing that will be pearl clutched to death.

There are places in Dublin that already close past 2am. I am not sure how some places are able to do this and others are not, but it certainly happens.

I think the late opening is a good idea, but let the venue itself decide if it wants to open until 4am or 5am.

If the demand is there, and it certainly is in Dublin, let them do it.

What i would like to see is public transport respond accordingly. More night buses, late DART/LUAS etc so that punters and workers can actually get home.

The Luas not running late at weekends is a total joke. Like you say - Do the maintainance the rest of the week.

They don't have to if they don't want to.

If it doesn't work financially or they can't get staff, they can close at a normal time.

I think there's definitely a market for at least one late opening nightclub per city, maybe ,2 or 3 in Dublin. Young people travel a lot and are accustomed to later hours.

Personally I'd like to see the licensing laws completely liberalised so that anyone could open a bar/pub/club once it satisfies certain fire and safety conditions. You'd have young lads opening clubs in warehouses for one night a week, dive bars etc..It'll never happen though as the Vintners association would oppose it.

I've a feeling the government will try to get this legislation through before the next election as it will have a feel good effect.

I presume everyone including current pub and club owners are in favour of it.

Hush now …

That logic and common sense is not wanted by the “trendy DJs” who want to “rinse” an obscure Guatemalan remix of Kylie at 5:59 am some morning

You are saying this, why?

What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Ohh we know the reason, its because super religious types dont understand how non religious types are able to have any morals without the threat of an imaginary sky daddy to keep them in check. Because we dont believe what they believe then any temptation, in this case alcohol and dancing, will obviously send us into a sex crazed murder rampage. They are just protecting us from ourselves donchaknow……

Sigh… we have already been through this but once again…

AGS don’t have the resources to police the streets 24/7.

Our HSE is already stretched to the absolute limits without throwing in drugged up clubbers to the A&E at stupid o clock in the morning - never mind the lack of transport options after say 12 am.

Drugs are not specifically associated with clubs FFS. Have you been to a rugby game in doonybrook or seen the local gaa rural team out for the night, loads coked out of their head . Drugs are everyone not just in clubs, I think your stuck in the early 90s with that view