Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

Owen Doyle: Ireland-South Africa match officials unlikely to enjoy performance reviews after poor day

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“Ground control to Major Tom, you’re off your course, direction’s wrong.”

For some odd, or maybe obvious, reason David Bowie’s lyrics came to mind as Ben Whitehouse called in, or didn’t, from his TMO command centre to referee Luke Pearce.

Let’s look at the Craig Casey incident when, strangely, there was no call from Whitehouse. Casey was in possession as recent Munster team-mate RG Snyman came past the ruck, probably offside too. He first tried to impede Casey’s pass by targeting his arm. He failed, the ball was gone when he proceeded to tackle the scrumhalf, driving him backwards and into the ground where his head smacked violently on the turf. Casey was knocked out cold, it was a sickening moment of grave concern.

It was a late tackle off the ball, and pretty high too. It demanded a review, but there was only silence from the TMO. As recently as last week, this column emphasised that there are very dangerous tackles where there is no direct collision with the head, and this was one. Given the head contact protocols, the outcome may well have been excused as “a rugby incident,” a term I always find bordering on ludicrous.

But, here we are again, tethered by protocols, and not guided by the laws of the game. There is also something in the equation called a duty of care, which the tackler certainly didn’t seem overly worried about. It was 131kg driving needlessly into 76kg, clearly dangerous, and there is no greater proof of that than the outcome. I am very willing to take any brickbats of disagreement, and there’ll probably be plenty, I’d guess, from South Africa.

But such a tackle, which can result in a very serious brain injury, merits a lot more than “play on”, There have to be consequences. I don’t believe that the TMO should be the final arbiter of such player actions, involving serious injury. It has to be the ref’s call.

Neither can I comprehend how Pearce, watching Casey receive prolonged treatment, didn’t want to see for himself. Caelan Doris certainly wanted him to, but instead he told the player off, albeit politely.

Whitehouse did call up Pearce, to deny James Lowe a try, after a wondrous run down the touchline. Hawk-eyed, the TMO had spotted a potential offence by Ronan Kelleher in a ruck, seconds before. The hooker had gone to ground, the ball striking his foot before emerging on Ireland’s side. Pearce had a direct view of it, and had not whistled it. That’s the crux of the matter – it was a referee decision in a ruck, not for the TMO. However, what he should have picked up was the neck roll on Kelleher which helped put him on the deck in the first place. Ireland would then, at least, have had a penalty, which instead went the other way.

Lowe mixed the good with the bad. His successful attempt to keep the ball in play, with no idea of who was behind him, was unwise. The risk-reward balance was unfavourably skewed, quite the opposite of his sumptuous offload for Jamie Osborne’s score. It led directly to Kolbe’s try, although it took a lengthy study to decide that Lowe was no longer in possession before his foot was on the ground in touch.

There is a another consideration here. The law states that the ball is in touch if it, or the ball carrier, touches the touchline or anything beyond. Having released the ball, the question is, if it then hit Lowe’s thigh, does that qualify as “anything beyond” the touchline. There’ll be mixed views on it, with the only opinion which counted – Whitehouse’s – ruling that there was nothing clear and obvious for Pearce to overturn his on-field “try” decision.

Lowe was also involved in the correctly awarded penalty try for South Africa. Playing the ball deep in Ireland’s in-goal, uncharacteristically he fumbled it; Pearce awarded the inevitable five-metre scrum. The “bomb squad” had arrived en masse, just in time to play a mere 30 minutes of an 80-minute match, which raises again serious safety concerns. They did their business, completely splintering the Ireland pack, with Kelleher singled out for a yellow card.

There was more TMO involvement when the referee was persuaded by Doris to look at his grounding of the ball for a possible try in the second half. One camera angle showed the ball to be short of the line, and that was enough for Whitehouse to rule it out. But there was another angle which seemed to show a clear, if very brief, grounding. Ireland will have a big query on this one, among many others.

Doris and Pearce had an interesting relationship throughout the afternoon, with the Irishman getting under the ref’s skin at times. That’s not really a great idea, but, at times, it was hard to blame him. Assistant Rob Dickson, in charge next Saturday, will have taken good note of the exchanges. The match officials are unlikely to enjoy their performance reviews. They had a poor day, in what was a thunderously ferocious contest.

In addition to World Rugby’s specialist review group on the red card replacement, there are two additional groups working away. One is studying the whole matter of TMO involvement; the other on the question of replacements, aka “bomb squads”.

The groups are due to come up with recommendations for adoption by World Rugby’s council, in November. That meeting cannot come soon enough, both have evolved into something which was never intended. They are in real Major Tom territory – completely off course

Whitehouse has history and nobody has done anything about him so far, don't expect anything to change

McCarthy was grand, Etzebeth was grand. No more, no less.

If they'd swapped jerseys before the game, the result would have been the same. Really not sure what the argument is.

Etzebeth is on a very downward slope, he's not the player he was even a year or two ago IMO. As someone pointed out above, if McCarthy was playing great, he wouldn't have come off after 49 minutes - but if Etzebeth was really that good, the Boks wouldn't have hauled him off or indeed had a pre-planned strategy to replace him.

On the flip side, McCarthy might not be the finished article but his progress this season has been phenomenal. We're supposed to be happy about that, just to remind people.

no probably about it. Snyman was offside.

dirt

I wonder did he show his face in the Irish locker room after?

Fair play Faf!

https://x.com/captspringbok/status/1809911617879965775?s=46&t=LZNAt8uQdNSsqynXTsT0dw

I actually thought the same when the DJ was playing the tunes…

My God! it's Coldplay! Horrific…poor Casey

I think McCarthy suffered (might be the wrong word) a bit from the hype of the France match in that at the time it was a superb performance against a team that, maybe, at that time we thought were a lot better than they actually were (Italy nearly taking them in Paris, although I do think this Italian team are better than previous iterations).

His trajectory for the rest of the tournament after that was downward in comparison and probably a bit truer to his real level for me (which is still a good level, I just didn't buy into the 'generational' talk of a couple of people on here who champion him a lot, which is fine, we all have our favourites).

He's still raw and not the finished article but it was an exciting breakthrough season for him, bodes well for Leinster and Ireland if he keeps it up.

McCarthys an elite ball carrier. He typically always wins collisions and draws double tackles in doing so. Its by far his best skill and only elite one.

The clue is in the word “fans”

I find the obsession that some people have with SA even stranger tbh. We’ve shown consistently that we’re every bit as good as them, so why is it so hard for people to accept that our players might be as good as theirs?

Just on the Doris/Pearce interaction, that wasn't in relation to Casey. Doris was irritated as there was an obvious deliberate knock on at the line out just before that. A hand came through and slapped the pop pass to Casey to the ground. It was clear. Pearce called knock on advantage and then advantage over just as Casey was scragged.

There's no way in hell it wasn't a deliberate knock on though. It was a single hand, coming through the lineout and batting a pass straight down.

again, I got a bit carried away in my support for the Ireland coach. I’m an Ireland fan, it happens. Or at least, it’s supposed to.

If you can show me the bit where I said you can’t post opinions, please do.

But if those opinions are fanboying for another national team and running down Ireland players, then they’re going to be challenged.

Team announcements can’t come quickly enough!

Although I expect that will bring another barrage of superciliousness

Will SA team announcement be early again?

SA generally name their team early. It wasn't just last week.

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/sport/rugby/springboks/when-springboks-will-name-team-tuesday-ireland-kings-park/