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Leeds United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2024/25

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  • #12302
    xlogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭xlogo


    He wanted out and he got out the first chance he got - the clause was in his contract for what he wanted.

    It's good business for everyone by the sound it.



  • #12303
    Jimmy Two Times
    Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Jimmy Two Times


    Believe what you want lads, best article on the whole thing written yesterday by Daniel Chapman in his new post TSB life, hits the nail on the head for me.

    Quote…………

    " We don't know whether that clause was inserted at the behest of a player who, reports say hasn't been pushing to leave, or to suit a club who would need to cash in if they missed out on going up. Usually it's requested by the player and their agents. But it's important to remember that a release clause still gives a player the right to say no - their club has to accept a transfer offer from another team, but the player does not.The reported timelines with Gray have me leaning towards clubs meeting his release clause, Gray saying he'd be happier at Leeds for another season and Leeds saying he can't do that because of their PSR situation. "

    Chapman is very well connected at Leeds so can't rule out a bit of inside info here.



  • #12304
    xlogo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭xlogo


    Chapman is guessing - just like the rest of us.



  • #12305
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Reports that Brighton had a £30m offer for Rutter turned down and that they also had a look at Summerville. Hopefully that'll end their interest, and obviously it's not worthwhile selling at that price for PSR purposes.



  • #12306
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Lads, bottom freeders trying to flex there muscles. It's incredible.



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  • #12307
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Brighton and Brentford throwing wads of cash at Leeds, mind the gap indeed

    The PL is really nowhere near as great as made out to be from a competitive or quality stand point, but a club like Leeds simply has to be there and stay there or get left behind in a way that can't be recovered



  • #12308
    adaminho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Back At training today and it was all smiles around. Great to see Pascal back.

    http://youtube.com/post/UgkxIMtD1hILrvpCFBmiLjYLie9H4_cIXnja?si=k7yz-A0IomfBNVzh



  • #12309
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Offer from Betis for Llorente has been rejected. Adam Pope saying that they offered similar to what they're paying for Roca (€4.5m) but he cost us €20m so understandably the club wants more.



  • #12310
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122331591#Comment_122331591

    It was Leeds United who actually stated in black and white that Spurs "activated the release clause" with their offer for Gray.

    I assume Brentford activated the release clause too a day earlier, but messed it up because they couldn't afford the £41 Million fee up front. They possibly suggested some installment deal but Leeds needed the readies immediately.



  • #12311
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    In addition to the first game of the season at home to Portsmouth, the following games will be on Sky. All tv games to the end of September have been selected, so there shouldn't be any further changes.

    Fixture: West Bromwich Albion vs Leeds United

    Date: Saturday 17th August, 2024.

    Kick-off: 12:30, live on Sky Sports Football

    Location: The Hawthorns

    ==========

    Fixture: Sheffield Wednesday vs Leeds United

    Date: Friday 23rd August, 2024

    Kick-off: 8pm, live on Sky Sports Football

    Location: Hillsborough

    =========

    Fixture: Leeds United vs Burnley

    Date: Saturday 14th September, 2024

    Kick-off: 12:30pm, live on Sky Sports+

    Location: Elland Road



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  • #12312
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Jesus still sorting ortas mess. Overpaid for lot of them players.



  • #12313
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122335790#Comment_122335790

    Those players are going for a lot more if we’re in the PL. That’s the crux not the amount paid by us which was market rate for all those players.

    Llorente in 2020 was a current Spanish international we bought for €18m on a four year-contract (extended by two years). Under fair play rules I believe that’s €3m a year for six years and to break even we need to sell him for €6m. This is a guy who has gone to Euro 2020 in 3021. He has also featured in a Europa final and Europa semi- final in the last two seasons.

    Hes 31 next month but securing €6m for him should be easily achievable.



  • #12314
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336287#Comment_122336287

    Part of the crux is them players failed to keep us in the pl. We did not get value for our money.



  • #12315
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336291#Comment_122336291

    Entirely irrelevant to fair play. It’s not going to be an issue for us this season or next.



  • #12316
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336294#Comment_122336294

    I'm not talking about fair play.



  • #12317
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336300#Comment_122336300

    That’s the conversation. We’ve recouped the cash for Roca and we will for Llorente. And that’s without being in the PL. We may even make a profit under Fair Play. If so I hope you’ll send your thanks to Orta.



  • #12318
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336373#Comment_122336373

    It's not my conversation. Orta bought players in pl for pl prices, they didn't help us stay in the league , therfore were not value for money. Ortas transfers failed. So no I will not be sending him my thanks. You fire away though, I'm sure he will be happy to hear from you.



  • #12319
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336382#Comment_122336382

    I’m looking forward to the season. I think the planning is going well and we may be able to hold onto most of the players we want to whilst recruiting a few more without jeopardising Fair Play rules. Farke will have more time to prepare and August will not be chaotic. Our main opponents are not of the quality of last season. We’ll be very close to promotion this season, and I think we’ll be automatic.

    What I am not doing is looking for a hate-figure or punchbag to project blame onto. It’s unproductive and a waste of energy. Not my politics. Not my football. Going up is what it’s all about. Nothing else.



  • #12320
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    Twitter losing its mind about there being a bit of red on the home shirt next season (red bull logo).
    Complete overreaction - am I missing something or is it because Man Utd wear red ?
    its a sponsors logo - not as if we’ve put in red for the craic



  • #12321
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336549#Comment_122336549

    I am also optimistic for season . I have full faith in farke and this board and their transfer policy.



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  • #12322
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336575#Comment_122336575

    People are idiots, they get offended by anything these days and hardcore fans are a bit delusional

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122336549#Comment_122336549

    i agree, pretty optimistic about next season, we’ve done good business fo far in regards to Archie, emotions aside, it’s very good business. We will most likely lose a few more maybe but I think Farke will be able to make solid replacements, he will make his system work and I don’t think he needs star players to do it



  • #12323
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭championc


    Lets face it, Archie was surplus in midfield and was utilised in Right Back. A younger Ayling would have kept him on the bench.

    So it was great business. I hope the lad gets regular football somewhere, because he'll need it, or he will go backwards



  • #12324
    jacool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭jacool


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    Home and third mock ups from web



  • #12325
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Both terrible. On the first kit I really don't like the Red Bull logo. Not the red specifically, although I don't think red goes particularly well with the rest of the colour scheme, I just think it's an awful logo no matter what it's on. But I really hate the blue bits at the bottom, it would look so much cleaner without them.

    As for the third kit, wtf is that? I really hope it's just someone's concept kit and it's not a reality, that's a horror show as bad as this season's pink kit.



  • #12326
    jacool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭jacool


    Those blue bits will stay as that's the Adidas template - some scary iterations of it on show at the Euros.

    The 3rd kit are all mad as far as I can see. The year of the black and orange one clearly they didn't have a kit ready because that looked just like a tee-shirt that they threw in last minute.

    Dunno how people can drop the cash on three new kits every season. I bought a polo shirt and peacock top at the giveaway prices a month back. I can live with being a year out of fashion (for the next few years) !!!

    Post edited by jacool on


  • #12327
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Details confirmed for the League Cup tie at home to Middlesboro. 8pm, Wednesday 14th August, game is on Sky.



  • #12328
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Shacks gone, confirmed by the club now. Strong rumours that Kamara might be leaving. I know Aaronson is back but with Gray already gone I hope we have a few midfielders lined up to bring in as we're looking a bit light there again.

    Best of luck to Shacks, always performed well when needed.



  • #12329
    jacool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭jacool


    Its official - launch at 09:00 today. Form an orderly queue that @Zaph and myself won't be in! BOXT moves to sleeve

    image.png



  • #12330
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    I'll probably be proven wrong but given the backlash at the announcement of the Red Bull deal coupled with the fact it looks like someone spilled something down the front, I can't see this being a big seller.



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  • #12331
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    its not that bad, TBH. Its not as if we haven't worn red and had it in a sponsor logo before



  • #12332
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    I agree with Zaph. The red doesn't bother me as I'm not ten years old but that logo is horrible and really doesn't work with the rest of the jersey. I haven't bought one in years anyway but I doubt this will be a huge seller.



  • #12333
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122341695#Comment_122341695

    For me also that’s €70 saved this season. The Red Bull logo just completely overshadows the crest in the way that other sponsors haven’t before.

    My eight-year old loves the bulls and wants the shirt but for me it’s a dog’s dinner.



  • #12334
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122343749#Comment_122343749

    Am I right in saying that kids jersey's are not allowed have the Red Bull logo on them?



  • #12335
    jacool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭jacool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353527#Comment_122353527
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    100% - the above will set you back €63, jersey only!



  • #12336
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353527#Comment_122353527

    I’ve no idea. I get the idea of not encouraging kids to promote hi-energy caffeinated drinks, but given all the sportswashing and betting logos on shirts it makes little sense.



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  • #12337
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122354243#Comment_122354243

    Gambling sponsors are not allowed on kids jerseys either although it makes very little difference as they are exposed to it enough in other ways.



  • #12338
    adaminho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Creswell gone to Toulouse permanently.

    https://x.com/LUFC/status/1810313777193083258?t=Fx8NA5UNrPqOKI_MrPsVxA&s=19



  • #12339
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122355365#Comment_122355365

    £4m according to the Athletic.



  • #12340
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Alex Cairns isn't a signing I was expecting tbh! Is it a sign that an offer has been made for Meslier?



  • #12341
    Tom2
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭Tom2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122358160#Comment_122358160

    Not at all. He's the replacement for Klaesson as 3rd choice keeper. There's also a requirement to have a certain number in the registered squad and matchday squad who are "home-grown" in the sense of having come through the club's academy and he ticks that box - as does Byram



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  • #12342
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Joe Rothwell linked. Seemed to do okay with Southampton in the second half of last season albeit more as a sub than a starter.



  • #12343
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Rothwell, Kamara and Gruev in midfield. Presumably Rodon, Ampadu and Pascal in central defence. Firpo may go onto left wing if Jimmy and Gnonto depart.



  • #12344
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Rothwell is not exactly the calibre of player I thought we would be going for but I suppose he's ok as a back up midfielder. I'm hoping Kamara doesn't get sold though as Rothwell shouldn't be a starter in my opinion.



  • #12345
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Love the Bielsa rant in the press conference, about time someone did that. The man is a proper legend and a one off.



  • #12346
    Mushy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,495 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122370478#Comment_122370478

    Looks like Kamara is off to Rennes for 10m. Nice profit but assume there's more players coming if he's going, wouldn't have sold him



  • #12347
    Neewollah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Neewollah


    I don't think Kamara is a huge loss. Was solid but offered nothing from an attacking sense. Easy enough replace him with a blocker in this division



  • #12348
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Gnonto, Kamara, Bamford, Piro, Gelhardt, Summerville.

    Not confident any of them will make a difference next season. Would only keep them because we need players.



  • #12349
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122380209#Comment_122380209

    You're not confident the Championiship player of the season will make a difference next season? Also Gnonto? I agree Piroe isn't first 11 and I would love a striker to replace Paddy. Joffy must surely see that his future is elsewhere so I would be very surprised if he stays but I can't understand how you put Willy and Cree in that list. They're possibly still going to leave this summer but if not that's a great achievement on our part.



  • #12350
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122376879#Comment_122376879

    yea, I think he is very solid but 10 m, that’s great business



  • #12351
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122382294#Comment_122382294

    It is as long as we get a replacement that's at least at the same level as him and get them in before the season starts.

    The first month of last season is what cost us in my opinion, we need our new players in early.



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