Your New WHS Index

That was parlance who mentioned scores being reduced in a 10 hole comp vs the same non counting comp last year.

In a non counting comp, players tend to have higher scores. Mostly as the pressure is off and they know it doesn't affect their handicap. They are also usually using forward tees which might not be rated and have placing/cleaning everywhere. This makes it much easier to score.

There is also a small cohort who "protect" their handicap in counting comps. When they realise a good score is likely they pull the handbrake with a few holes left to have a score that is not good enough to appear on their record. Not happy that their score will win a big comp or 1st place so they are just bandits and everyone despises it.

When a comp is counting it's "real" golf on proper tees with no placing.

Typically most non-counting golf is during winter time anyway. Being able to have 10-17 holes counting is brilliant.

True for ya.I try my damnedest every comp.Fact i am useless doesnt srop me trying😁

not true, Handicapmaster gives stats for every hole along with your best and worst on each hole

Definitely not. I don't care when it's not counting

That must be something set by your club. Mine says "Displaying records covering last 9 months (or last 15 competitions processed)."

Is there any adjustment in WHS for weather conditions? Had 34pts on Saturday in a mini hurricane - definitely 3/4 shots harder than it would normally be and I actually went up in handicap. I know I must have knocked out a better score but it seems pointless to play in bad weather now if this is the case.

There is a thing called PCC now, which is similar to the old CSS, it can adjust the difficulty from -1 to +3 shots (so 1 shot easier to 3 shots harder).

It's not driven by weather but by scoring, and it's tricky to find the actual calculation anywhere. I know they changed the calc in the last year or so to make them be applied more often

It should be clear on the app if you look at the round to see if there is a PCC applied. In essence, a PCC of 2 would turn your 34 point round into the equivalent of a 36 point round.

Really interesting thanks. Had a look at Corballis with BGS this year as that’s the hardest conditions I recall playing in and sure enough a PCC of 3.

I played a SC this year and had a PCC of -1, thought I had played well…

This is the standard 18 hole calc:

(113 / Slope Rating) x (Adjusted Gross Score - Course Rating - PCC adjustment)

And I've attached a doc here that shows the 9-hole score details

Not necessarily but the differential will vary by how hard or difficult the course was and the number of holes played. You can play 9-17 holes to your hearts' content. However, if you go to play competitions/opens then you might not be eligible to win prizes. Many clubs will say you must have a minimum number of counting (18 hole) comps on your record and fully developed index. The goal of the WHS here is to try to get more people to have handicaps and also to have more scores on people's record. In theory the more scores on your record, the more accurate and up-to-date it should be relative to how you're playing.

I don't think GI will ever show this differential calculation or the logic behind it. You can figure it out by calculating the 9 hole differential as the 9 hole courses will have a slope/rating and then subtracting the difference to the overall differential. Unfortunately for 10-17 hole cards you don't have a slope/rating for those holes so you can't subtract it.

The PCC calculation is shrouded in mystery because it's considered proprietary and won't be published. You could have half the field shooting the lights out and the last 20% being miles off their handicap range. It's supposed to all balance out but in the absence of any transparency, it's hard to know. All I can say is I have never seen so many net 68 or better returns in a medal but no PCC on the day.