Kilkenny GAA Thread

They've probably produced the 2 performances of the championship in those Limerick games but yes have had unconvincing games too.

That's him alright, that was a brilliant show with Wooly, Cheedar etc. once upon a time, they've basically given up now.

How is that arrogant?

Its still true …….

Don't really have much to add to what has been said on Saturday's game, a game we could have won but left behind badly in the end and a disappointing end to the intercounty season. But just an update from the County Board meeting last night the CB outlined the purchase of around 30 acres of land in Dunmore after extensive sites being looked at this was the one that was found to be the best site. The sale of the land was in total 84 acres with the CB purchasing 30 acres, another club (not named) purchasing 10 acres and 2 companies purchasing the remainder of the land. It would seem that Phil Hogan was heavily involved in this process also but there waiting on everything to be sorted before outlining all details of what is to be expected but you can take it there will be floodlight and astro pitches at the site.

Is the land connected to the current grounds in Dunmore? If so, this is a great purchase.

Very badly needed and very welcome. We are so far behind other top counties with our facilities it's a joke.
Personally I'd have moved away from that dump, literally, and promoted this as a new start for bringing Kilkenny GAA into the 21st century, but perhaps cost is the issue.

Who are the club buying the 10 acres? Has to be OLG no?

Barrett made 9 appearances for Cork in 2021 (including 5 in the championship), so suggesting somehow that he wasn’t involved in 2021 or merely a fringe panel member, isn’t correct.

My main point is that we rightly look at KK senior team and subs and say there has been too little change in last 3-4 years. But look at the respective teams from the 2021 semifinal and there has probably been even less change with Cork, a team posters are telling us we couldn’t hope to live with if we had made the final.

Cork are playing with great verve and style and pace, but the suggest there is some sort of chasm between them and us is mental.

Go back a few months and posters here were calling Cork senior hurling a shambles, their club championship tippy tappy non contact rubbish. Now they are the new Limerick.

We’ll see, I'd have real doubts.

Fair enough but unless there an exceptional talent very few become a really prominent player in their team til 21-23 these days. Kilkenny's worst championship since the All Ireland QF were introduced in 1997 was in 2017 and that year ye knocked Limerick out in a qualifier in Nowlan Park, 10 of the Limerick starting team and 2 of the subs they used became mainstays of 5 All Ireland's in 6 years but they weren't at the level at that point.

Cork have produced probably the 2 performances of the championship in their games v Limerick, if they produce that in the final I can't see them losing but that's the big if. I don't think they'll take over either I actually fancy Limerick to bounce back next year, win 1 or 2 more titles with this team before it starts to break up.

I know and it's very good, Joe.ie kept that show with lads like James Ryall after Wooly left but seem have completely given up now.

Except we didn't get runover in 2019, 2022 or 2023 amd should have won thos year

Pace is important but Cork aren't pace everywhere either, the notably quick players they have are Barrett, Fitzgibbon, Connolly and Coleman. Other than that they are just like every other team.

Mikey Carey and Billy Ryan are quick for us, Blanchfield and Lawlor are quick also but not to the same degree. More pace would be beneficial alright but with a blend of the hurlers we have.

I have to say Cian Kenny was fantastic for us this year, won't get an all star but maybe behind William O Donohue and Darragh Fitzgibbon he is as good as there is in the country. He pops up everywhere , gets a few scores and his touch is class, saw different side to him this year so thought it's worth a mention.

I think Lyng is getting work out of the players, they are trying to do the right things and if they can develop the gameplan further we can do better. They have worked the ball better and have worked on it and improved it. If they structure how they work the ball to the middle of the field we could be on to something. The players are trying it and are more comfortable throwing the ball around but if they worked more in pods and triangles as they work the ball we would open up more opportunities. It's very clear in the clip of our short puckouts that we are trying to do the right things but the players aren't moving into the right pockets of space to give the full back line options.

The other thing is to be less conservative with players, like if we are down in a league match we were taking young lads off before half time and bringing on experience, give them time and let them see of they can work it out. Can't believe Jordan Molloy and Shane Murphy were not given their chance on Saturday off the bench. I couldn't care less how the league goes next year we need to try things and not panic if we lose a few poxy games.

Has to be more foresight as well, he played Luke Hogan in loads of games and then he disappeared, what changed, same with Killian Doyle saga.

All in all we are not in as bad a place as it appears but we have tried the same thing for three years so few changes are needed. We have to come back with something different.

Is there anyone with a Gaelic Football background involved in coaching hurling at county level in Kilkenny?

It's not the speed in our legs that's the problem. It's the speed in our brains. We heard a lot about adapting during games and having different formations and approaches from management but when push came to shove we failed to commit to heads up hurling.

And we have very poor onfield leadership since Shefflin retired. Who on the field had the wit and personality to force their peers to cop on and man up to the needed adjustments in approach? It's literally scruff of the neck stuff needed.

Fix the above, and we'll look like a team of greyhounds.

I'd love another strong runner but I'd argue we had it already in Blanch, Carey, Deegan, Mikey Butler and Hugh (who was moved out of FB). Also Mullen (if he was fit) considering he was an auxiliary back. The options were there.

I think quick hands are as important btw. We did one lovely layoff in the second half (can't recall who was involved) but that was it.