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Summer 2024 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Poor day today dull and wet. I find it interesting though to see how low the max temperatures are . Only 14c max here in Ashbourne so far today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,524 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Similar forecast for tomorrow in Dublin. Christ, "summer" really is the worst of all the seasons in Ireland, that's if we even have seasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Got 18 holes played today with no rain at all so can't complain. Fully expected wet weather but it doesn't feel far away though.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,980 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    We're into our second poor summer in a row here now, no getting away from the fact that this is yet another poor summer. However we do get some decent summers, we've had quite a few since the 2007-2012 run of awful summers. Winters on the other hand are still alot worse in my opinion, every winter is now mild or excessively mild, we can easily bag 10 of them in a row or more. We're getting to the stage now where we're only getting 1 proper winter every 10 to 15 years.

    The model watching this summer is very similar to an Irish winter in that we are constantly looking at warm summer weather 10 days away with high pressure only for it to wobble a day later and a verified bust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭KanyeSouthEast


    has the forecast changed again Gonzo? Was really banking on some respite this weekend from this rubbish. It’s been moderate to heavy rain here all day and 14 degrees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭compsys


    I'd argue that August has a poor track record because in recent years our best 'summer' weather has been in May and June/early July. So by the time August comes round the weather has broken - as let's face it - even in the BEST of summers we don't get endless weeks of good weather. It's a few weeks max. That's always been the case.

    I'm a believer that the weather evens out over the medium term. We've had 6 weeks of fairly cool weather with another one or two on the way. And below average sun for months on end. You'd kind of think/hope(!) by the time August comes round the pattern will have changed a bit. So maybe this August might be different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,858 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,858 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    South Dublin area here- I was up for the gym at 6am and it had been lashing for a couple of hours at that stage with everything soaked.

    I am now about to leave the house to collect the young lad from crèche whilst wearing a rain jacket with a jumper and T-shirt underneath.
    I’ll possibly bring an umbrella if the wind isn’t too bad.

    It’s Tuesday 9th July in Ireland and it hasn’t stopped raining here all day.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,980 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    The models were starting to look very good for a serious improvement in the weather from mid July up to a few days ago, It was showing a long elongated ridge from the azores across Ireland/Uk and stretching up into Nordic regions, however this all fell apart the day before yesterday and we're now into a fairly unsettled run of weather over the next 1 to 2 weeks. Temperatures may begin to recover slightly to more average temperatures but with lots of low pressures around the warm up won't mean much. There is still some hope that warmer and dryer weather could ridge up from the south during the 3th or final week of July but right now any ridging of high pressure looks very flimsy and short lived.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    You'll enjoy the hot weather even moreso Gonzo when you get away. That smell of heat (if there is a such a thing) when you get off your flight will be a thing to shed a tear for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    A miserable day for much of the country. Dublin Airport at 5.30pm reporting a soggy scene with just 800 metres visibility in light drizzle.

    EIDW 091630Z 01011KT 0800 R10R/1900D R28L/2000 R10L/2000 -DZ FG SCT001 OVC002 13/13 Q1005 TEMPO BKN001

    However parts the north west,west and south west have led a charmed life today

    Donegal Airport currently reporting just a few clouds and 16 degrees

    EIDL 091630Z 04014KT 9999 FEW034 16/11 Q1010



  • Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭Robwindstorm


    Thank you very much. I definitely dodged a bullet with the cold and wet today. Now eyes down for the charts to get the haylage done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Heavy rain the last 3 hours or so. Muck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    You'd have dodged two bullets if you didn't turn up

    Only kidding, congrats



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Doing well near Tralee this evening, cloud breaking up with sunshine and blue skies. Overall not a bad day, cloudy but feeling quite mild. Small bit of mist on and off today.Top temp 17.6C and currently 17.3C



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I think I just need to book a holiday at this stage, probably for early September at least Europe is still warm then , this weather is definitely effecting my depression, sorry I don't mean to be a moan



  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭alentejo


    I would love to have a better insight how the models keep acting they way they do! Ie forecast high pressure 7 to 14 days in-advance any yet they completely flip 5 to 7 days out. Surely the models should at this stage be tailored to take into account that the jet and Atlantic regime are likely to dominate. The flip-flopping of models are not ensuring confidence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭Kutebride


    Shockin day.

    Sky on the ground .

    Back in Meath after commute

    R a I n

    Flew back from Lanzaorote this day last week :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Well think of it like this. All weather systems around the globe are like a team working together. Low pressure systems help inflate ridges of high pressure elsewhere via processes like warm air advection. Positioning and jet stream behaviour are key to driving or forcing changes in these on a local scale. So if you get changes in one system, you are likely to effect the rest of the weather systems. One person makes a change in the project that wasn't agreed or conciliated with a team, the whole project goes into shatters. The project is the models. The models are projections based upon the data available at one time from weather stations worldwide that go into them and complex equations. One change in said data makes all the difference.

    If we have a situation whereby Ireland is projected to have high pressure build from the Azores, a couple of events need to occur for this to typically happen but can vary from situation to situation. Let's just for the sake of it give one example. So we have a deep area of low pressure coming from Newfoundland, Canada. This low gets caught in the North Atlantic jet stream and starts to funnelling towards Ireland. However, at the same time, the low pressure is drawing up a lot of warm air which may or may not help inflate high pressure as the air descends. The jet stream may go far north enough to allow this high to build into Ireland or the jet may just be too strong and overpowers the chance of high pressure. Given the geography and physics, we are more likely to see the latter but on occasion the former can happen and July 2024 may have been one of them provided other forces would co-operate. That's the same with any weather.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    imagine living in a country where you didn’t have to feel guilty during a nice day of weather or remorseful during a bad day of weather. Imagine a month of constant sunshine where it was just so expected that there was never any useless reference to it in small talk with other people or passer-by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,066 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Ah congrats Robwindstorm,you got a lovely day to celebrate! Imagine if it was booked for today😱

    I got married in August and surprise surprise it rained in the day.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,980 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I've given in for the 2nd time this week and put the heating on. I was in the supermarket earlier and so many people are utterly fed up of this summer between the cold, the wind and now the rain.

    Tomorrow looks a repeat of today but it may brighten up more towards the second half of the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Honestly, I don't like to vent so much negatively because it's not nice to read but 2024 truly is a shocker of a year. 7 months in and none of them have been memorably good in my opinion - January was ok and to some extent June also but often too cool whilst May I personally enjoyed but it was very poor in the sunshine department. There's even very few individual days that I can say I will remember positively for years to come - one of these is of course the aurora on May 10th which was also a lovely warm and sunny day and the snow event on March 1st.

    It's making a good achievement in being my least favourite weather year I've experienced. I've read posts from old threads talking about how bad 2011 was with the mostly mild winters and cool summer with also a wet, very mild and cloudy autumn. At least that had a wonderful spring. 2024 most certainly didn't.

    I don't see this changing as autumn will be autumn, a lovely pleasant autumn from start to finish is rare then a seasonable December to go along with it. I'll have a better chance at the EuroMillions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    Thought it was clearing up early afternoon here in Lucan, but it got bad again, and we've no let up in the rain. I can't remember when we last had a fully wet day with no dry daylight hours. So I suppose I can't complain really, but it's amazing how quickly you get fed up of it!

    I'd rreally ike a dry, sunny, not windy spell before September. Heat not required! I fear our cool dry windy May-June may be evened out with a warm wet spell though, which is my least favourite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    The last time we had period of really good weather what seemed for weeks was summer 2018 for me.

    So many glorious days.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 dan575283578


    Raining pretty much non-stop for the last 26 hours in wexford. Depressing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Today's high temperature at Dublin Airport seems to be 13.7C. If this is correct, then that makes it the coldest July day there since July 8th 2020, which also had a max of 13.7C. This is very apt as today felt like a day straight out of the July 2020 book, terrible but not quite as appalling as some of the worst days last July. Casement maxed out at 13.5C today, again, the coldest since July 8th 2020, which had a max of 13.3C.

    Tomorrow also looks very cool here, about 14/15C, perhaps 16C. The GFS has a max of only 12C in Dublin tomorrow but has no support from other models.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,524 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    When even sryan complaining you know we're in trouble



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭pureza


    Greenhouse lowest in 30 years in Ireland ?

    What were the measuring tools in 1994 vs now? And how do they know how often in 2024 that I start that really smokey massey of mine ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭KanyeSouthEast


    and when the Covid summer of 2020 is being called out rightfully for being as bad as this you also know you are in trouble.



  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Surprised at the 13.7c in Dublin Airport today. I think the fact that there was not much wind, it didnt feel as cold.

    It did feel like a mild November day all be it with more day light (not necessary brighter).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    The only memorable weather we have had since September 2022, was the cold spell in December 2022 and that nice spell mid May- mid June 2023. Perhaps an honourable mention for that week of warmth last sep, though bit too warm and especially humid for my liking personally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    a stunning day in South Kerry, we were blessed! I spent the day hiking the Kerry Way near Sneem and Parknisilla, mostly blue skies, very warm, no wind. I got a swim in Whitestrand near O Carrolls Cove about 5pm and it was warm and balmy. I am home now near Farranfore and looking at a golden sunset over the Dingle peninsula.

    I have friends and family in Dublin and Limerick and they were washed out of it today so I know how lucky we were . Looking good for the rest of the week. Everywhere !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    A fab evening here just outside Castlebar. Nice sunshine to end the day and nice to dodge the rain for once



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,362 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Seriously thinking about begging, borrowing and stealing to get a last minute week away in August. We were in Lanzarote for 10 days in April, if feels like a lifetime ago. Just a bit of heat would be lovely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Nice end, to a nice day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    The September 2023 spell was one of my favourite times in weather. I can certainly understand it being too much for some, it was notably humid compared to other heatwaves we've had and I've noted this using Casement's average dew points. There was lots for me to like. If I didn't have as much free time as I did then probably not being able to get up at the crack of dawn to see the veils of mist dancing across the local parks to see the graceful presence of that ball of fire showing itself over the horizon and not letting go until the end of the day to be repeated again the next morning.

    But my view of 2023 as a year is very biased and distorted because for me it was unusually good for personal reasons which may be making 2024 seem even worse in comparison. Then again… it has been disgraceful for anyone who remotely likes the idea of seasons. Those two single days or moments I mentioned are the only thing saving it from me throwing the year permanently into the dumpster fire but let's wait out the next 5 months before doing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,137 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Crazy coloured sky tonight, not sure what it means for tomorrow!

    Not filtered or doctored in any way. It really did look this pink.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 427 ✭✭Robwindstorm


    Cheers wazzledazzle and appledrop.

    The guy on bbc weather at 10.40pm said it won't be until the end of July until the jetstream rises up that the heat will arrive. Interesting to see if he's right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    A classic example of the sun on a clear horizon illuminating the sky above via rayleigh scattering aided by the cloud from the nearby front I presume which should be now over you if I'm remembering correctly that you are in Donegal. Can be indicative of a fine day ahead the following day as pressure builds in behind the front but not in this case as the front didn't come from the west, it came up from the south/southeast and will bring a soft day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Last glimmers of daylight.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,980 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Looks like the west easily had it best today, today one of the rare days where the east had a total write off and indeed the worst day of summer so far while the west had a reasonably good day. Not much in the way of good news on the horizon but at least Friday to Sunday don't look too bad, a big improvement on today and indeed tomorrow which will be welcome but things will probably go downhill again from early next week. We still may get a decent final 10 days to July but alot needs to happen to fix the current pattern we've been in since early June. Perhaps August might save us yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭esposito


    Another pathetic summers day in Dublin. Feels like a mild day in December. Miserable light rain, mist and awfully cool for July.

    We need drastic improvements end of the month and August.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭KanyeSouthEast


    Groundhog Day. Dull and dreary temp 11 degrees. No warmth no sun no brightness. At least it’s dry 😀



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,489 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I lit the stove last night, which was nice.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,066 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Not dry here Kayne, thank god I'm escaping for a while, hate flying but get me on that plane even if I have to endure a terrible two's tantrum with the toddler!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Exact same as yesterday. N Kildare



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭pad199207


    As you were



  • Registered Users Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    This is the bleakest summer I’ve experienced. Constant rainfall again all throughout today to be expected in Dublin. I remember it being between 22-26 degrees during this time in 2022 and 2021. I’ve learnt my lessons for next summer 2 weeks holidays, 2 weeks remote work in a foreign country.



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