Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Fair enough .

My last comment on this ...if this person is so racially biased person how can you trust anything they post ?

It's not unusual for these videos to be reconstructed or fake .

I wouldn't believe it on any media without verification .

Hi Nachouser,

I invite you to print off your post, frame it, put it up on your wall and look at it and think about it on every 10 Year anniversary. whilst googling the demographic statistics of the Republic of Ireland on that particular day.

These are the current statistics from England.

The Indigenous White British people now comprise under 75 % of the population of England.

The Indigenous White British people now comprise about around 36% of the population of their capital city of London.

London is comprised of 32 Boroughs, in some boroughs, the Indigenous White British people comprise less than 20% of the population of the borough, for example Newham, where they make up less than 17% of the population.

Boroughs are comprised of Wards, where local councillors are voted for. in some wards the Indigenous White British People now comprise less than 5% of the population.

Britain, currently has the highest number of 4 or more children families since the early 1970s. However, this is not spread evenly through Ethnic Groups. The majority of 4 children families are being born to mothers from Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and other countries. The average White British women is bottom of the list in fertility statistics.

Additionally, while Indigenous White British Women will have their perhaps 1 or maybe 2 children at a far later age, if they ever have them at all, women from such ethnic groups will have their children at a much younger age, which means that in generational terms, 3 generations of certain ethnic groups will be born in the same time as 2 generations of Indigenous White British. It's also to note that the 2nd and 3rd Generations of these ethnic groups who will be considered " British " in future statistics by virtue of acquisition of British passports for convenience and enrichment, whilst they themselves identify as their ethnic group, which will skew future demographic statistics, ( much as the RTE report that " A ( never identified ) Man From Tallaght " has been arrested )

For some time, estimates on when the Indigenous Whte British people will become a minority in Britain ( not England ) all agree that this inevitable within this century. Some estimates give the mid to late 2050s , others the early 2070s. But it is agreed that by the time the century is out, the Indigenous White British people will become an ethnic minority in Britain when measured against " non White British ".

These estimates are based on " current trends ". but given local councils prioritise social housing on " single mothers " with " large families ", and the new Labour government will re-instate child benefit for all children, the rewards of having large families and putting a hand out to the state will surely increase. It;s almost like adding steriods to the equation.

So yes, the Indigiinous White British people are indeed being " outbred ".

As as for colonisations, I could educate you on that too.

But there is a certain contingent who will claim that " Ireland will be different ", because we are nicer, and they will respect that, and become more Irish than the Irish,.

You will live to take down the picture frame and eat your words.

Discussion of the dilution of culture, being outbred, and colonised is " nasty stuff " ?

I believe those on the left are in agreement that the actions of European immigrants and colonisers as it affected the Indigenous North American people, the Canadaiand First Nation people, the Indigenous South American people, the Indigenous Australian people, the Indigenous New Zealand people, the Indigenous people of the African continent and the Indigenous people of the South Asian sub continent is to be considered genocide and crimes against humanity.

Yet discussion of similar demographic changes relating to the Indigenous people of the island of Ireland is " nasty stuff ".

Double standards there.

I'm sure Hitlers art was lovely

very little reporting of this compared to the other times before the elections. https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/dublins-tent-city-supporters-of-asylum-seekers-refuse-to-move-as-gardai-dismantle-migrant-camp/a984153401.html

Let them move into their supporters houses off they go

I'm sure there's some posters here that are the "Supporters" referenced in the title

Yes of course, what we need to talk about in this refugee thread is your feeling of being emotionally blackmailed, not the 30,000 people who have died or gone missing trying to cross to Mediterranean to get to the EU in the last decade. A figure which will also include many innocent people, including children, dying horribly and needlessly trying to come to Ireland.

In years to come I think people will look back on those benefiting from these systems in the same way we now do slave traders. These beneficiaries include traffickers, but also the opportunist politicians, and their scapegoat seeking, outrage hungry supporters who demand these measures.

There are plenty of alternatives to the horrible, murderous, deterrent approaches which of course look nothing like 'open borders'. The problem is those alternatives are long term with no immediate political gain, so instead lets pour billions more towards these failed approaches because they provide ready scapegoats, the 'bogus' asylum seekers, to secure cheap votes from the genuine, well meaning, but ill-informed locals concerned about services , and also the hate-filled mobs and their constructed social media realities.

Thankfully all those children arriving into Ireland at the moment and sleeping along the canal are huge. Like fully grown adult male sized.

Do you think children have stopped dying coming to Ireland?

11 are killed every week trying to cross the Med.

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/eleven-children-die-every-week-attempting-cross-central-mediterranean-sea-migration

Based last years asylum figures, and Ireland's percentage of EU totals, that would mean 8 children died trying to come here last year and 40 adults.

I see no figures on how many are detained indefinitely, or being tortured by militias in North Africa, or sexually exploited by traffickers etc.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/number-of-asylum-seekers-up-87-in-2024-1743418

Numbers continue to rise

We’ve spent over a billion quid on this mess (excluding the Ukrainians)

Let that sink in. Over a billion of our taxed income spent on making our country a worse place to live.

They won’t spend on vital infrastructure projects like the metro to the airport etc but they’re more than happy to piss away our taxes on a bunch of chancers at the drop of a hat

I don't know what you're trying to get at here.

Do you not know people are crossing the med to come to Ireland?

Or are you trying to say a certain amount of children dying, or being raped, while trying to get here is acceptable, because of riots in Italy?

Maybe it's just good old fashioned whataboutery.

Not to mention the shortage of vital child services and shortage of doctors and nurses etc due to financial restraints.

The photo discussed was a lazy attempt to illustrate a point, the poster presumably thought that no one would bother to check and perhaps they didn't even bother to check themselves when it occurred, nearly a decade ago. In that situation myself, I'd put my hands up and say fair cop.

I & I'm sure others are quite happy to discuss the ins and outs of our current refugee and asylum seeker policies and current events related. Most reasonable people see there are various angles, bad points and some good points. I've never said matters are black & white. However like many fellow citizens, I think we have gone too far in recent times and we need to counter balance this and reduce the inward flow, whilst removing those with no rights to be here. At the same time, we should assist a set annual quota of valid applications and do what is needed in these cases. That approach matches our obligations with our chequebook.

If others want to argue otherwise and that we should squeeze everyone in who wishes to come here, at whatever cost, well offer the arguments and be prepared to defend them.

Who exactly is being raped and murdered due to our "hard borders" - which we do not have, unless the word "porous" has a different meaning to you.

Perhaps you could be good enough to provide details ?