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Irish Air Hostess Allegedly Domestically Abused In Dubai

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    She could just be an idiot though. Never discount that possibility.



  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Eudaimonia


    The sentiment SF are whipping up attempting to portray themselves as compassionate towards the air hostess in Dubai is deeply manipulative. Their track record of crime and savagery will take hundreds of years to undo. It will not be forgotten by me or my family or it’s offspring for generations. Remember Dubai houses the leaders of their sister organisation Hamas?

    The last thing we ever need as a country to do is let people like SF near the levers of power or the dept of foreign affairs as it would portray similar image of our evil nature as a country just like the evil nature of Dubais rulers and laws. Can you imagine the laws SF would enact? The country would be a veritable free house with free reign and sympathy for “justified” criminals.

    My heart goes out to the woman in question and I hope she returns here safely as a matter of urgency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,691 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    I'm sure you're not wrong. It's not just the Irish government either - look at how the UN was complicit with the Taliban in blocking women from the U.N.-led conference of international envoys on Afghanistan in Doha, Qatar in June. To get the Taliban to participate, the U.N. decided not to have women and rights activists at the table - need to get your priorities right, eh?

    That's why women keeping quiet doesn't work: turns out men don't mind women's rights being crushed when there are more important (to them) things at stake.

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    So you're okay with murdering children in their thousands as long as they're Muslims?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,569 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Sandpit with shiny buildings, has a thin veneer of Westernisation over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Don't think he said that.

    Think it's more a jab fact that the most ardent supposed feminists in the west seem to have strange love in for muslim countries in general , if they were logical the opposite would be the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭prunudo


    I, nor the post I quoted never mentioned social media. I don't have the transcript, but what I heard on the radio was Mary Lou trying to score points against the government. I stand by my point, these things are delicate and require diplomacy. We might not like it, but UAE have laws that don't align with our lifestyles, but Mary Lou standing up in our parliament and dictating on how a foreign government rules its country is not a good look when the dept of Foreign Affairs are trying to sort things out behind the scenes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Not too long ago our own country was no shining beacon either then. Magdalene Laundries, babies sold to US couples, Tuam septic tanks, suicides not allowed to be interred in Catholic graveyards etc etc.

    Now this woman has all my sympathies for her horrible treatment but again Ireland wasn't much better and not too long ago either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    You can blame the journalists for the lack of detail on the attacker. The sources obviously focus on her to raise awareness of her situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,703 ✭✭✭✭osarusan




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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 PastaPizzas


    The Magdalene Laundries are like Hitler’s Concentration Camps.

    Exaggerated mumbo jumbo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,448 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    I never said anything of the sort.

    I just pointed out the hypocrisy of "progressives" and their blind support for a people, and ultimately a regime that share none of their "progressive" values.

    But you knew that already and just threw in the murdering children because that's the best you could do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭DellyBelly




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Yes but keep in mind that it was not so different in Europe until a few decades ago either (Franca Viola for instance). As others have stated its well known by now how incredibly backwards some of the Middle Eastern countries are in this regard, and anyone travelling or moving there has a responsibility to inform themselves of these things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The people's support was for the innocents who are caught up in it and are suffering terribly. And you know that too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    She was domestically abused, she was not in the correct mental state to consider the legal impact of a suicide attempt.... So ya, it's not an education issue..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The question is what are YOU complaining about. Ireland decriminalised it 30yrs after England did. And its currently 30yrs after Ireland did. Irelands hardly a beacon of religion tolerance. These laws were common across the Western world. Glass houses and all that. None of it was right, ever.

    There been a lot of lobbying internally in Dubai to have these laws changed for a long time.

    It probably wouldn't have arisen if she hadn't been blocked from leaving in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Similar could be said about the country of the husband. Two countries made for each other.

    Next Man City manager: You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Pep. But as far as I'm concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest **** dustbin you can find, because you've never won any of them fairly. You've done it all by bloody cheating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,448 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    So where were all the flags and marches in support for the innocent Israelis, some of them children, murdered on Oct 7th ?

    As I said, it's just so fuckin hypocritical.

    But that's fine with me, if these people want to be fools that's their own business.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Oh I knew exactly what you meant. They're fools now for protesting the murders of innocents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    As you say domestic abuse situations are rarely logical. I'm sure friends and family tried to get/keep to her away from the apartment and were unsuccessful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,233 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    ”Like most other domestic violence victims, Tori returned home hoping the behaviour would stop.”

    From one of the articles. It was not an isolated incident but one of several. Obviously doesn’t make it her fault but it’s not as simple as one person losing control all of a sudden and taking the other by surprise.



  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭Gerrymandering reborn


    People need to learn the truth about Dubai, despite all the fake glitz and glamour, the laws of the country are strongly linked to Islam. As and we as all know, Islam does not consider as humans and this has been demonstrated many times.

    I hope she gets all the help she needs ASAP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,233 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    also the dribble about Sinn Fein and MLMD is predictable but moronic. Legally in the Dubai system she has no hope. Kicking up enough of a fuss to generate as much negative publicity as possible about the case/Dubai is the only thing that might save her. The fact the English have now picked up on it is fantastic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,691 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    Lead story on VIRGIN media news just now -



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,384 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Simon Harris has announced that the travel ban has been lifted and the Irish embassy will be looking after the woman in question and getting her home when she’s ready to do so.

    Per a tweet from gavan Reilly.

    Post edited by Itssoeasy on


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    https://x.com/gavreilly/status/1811004132066537760

    She is now to be allowed to travel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Her travel ban is lifted and she'll hopefully be home soon -

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0710/1459119-tori-towey-dubai/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,708 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Will they send the government jet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    I know which means we're perfectly placed as a country to point out how religion holds back a country , helps suppress women's rights and how it isn't a good thing.

    This should result in our supposed feminists here despising another religion which is resulting in horrific treatment of women but it doesn't.

    A large proportion of modern western feminists hate christianity but won't hear a word against Islam, it's bizarre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Fair play to the Government though as they seem to have acted fast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,638 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    100% agree.

    I was in Dubai and I was shocked at the place. Modern slavery is the only way to describe how they treat migrant workers. As for the treatment of women, I was horrified.

    Places like the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Palestine are not welcoming places for women.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The world is full of hypocrites and some can't even hide it. They'll call out stuff that is happening somewhere and not even see similar things that are happening in front of their eyes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭Ted222


    Warnings at the point of sale rather than consideration. The fact that warnings are even necessary illustrates what an unpleasant place it really is.

    My point is that the government shouldn’t be encouraging ties to the region. The Taoiseach vowing to intervene is sadly laughable and too late. These people do what they like. If the Taoiseach really wants to take a stand, he should adopt of discouraging people from having anything to do with the region.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,530 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    That's down to their own internalised racism.

    Muslims are mostly brown people, which in their minds makes them victims, so nothing they do is their own fault so they can do absolutely anything without being held responsible for it and anyone critical of that behaviour is a racist or Islamaphobe because it's easier to pick on white people for perceived phobic responses than to call out the barbaric nature of Islam.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Since the travel ban has been lifted, I would say the Department of Foreign Affairs handled it pretty well tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,333 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Hopefully a good end to the story, but this should be a clear warning to everyone thinking about working in that sh!thole of a country. Yes, you'll make your money, but you're funding this carry on. I don't care if they change in the future, fact is right now this caveman level of control that religion has in that country should immediately put anyone off going day, especially women and non-straight people. But it won't. The lure of the fake glam and "easy" money will continue to draw in people who only care about themselves. So I expect to see more stories like this in the future.

    While I feel sorry for her situation, I can't say I feel sorry for her overall, for the above reasons. Plenty of similar examples of this happening for years, but she still decided to go there. Call it victim blaming if you will, but a decision was made that this country was worth living in at some point. I was tempted by Emirates a few times myself over the years, but the fact they're UAE based was enough to stop me from every applying. Some people take the risk regardless. So I don't have sympathy in that regard. I see where Jequ0n is coming from, as one would say "well if it isn't the consequences of your actions", those actions being having a lifestyle in a backwards country, marrying someone from a third country quickly and quietly… seems like a series of bad decisions led to the current situation, and one which without the flapping from MaryLou she'd probably be locked up over there by now. So yeah, feel sorry she got bet up and everything else, but that crap happens in the UAE…

    But it's ok, looks like there's enough people on here to feel sorry for her so mine isn't needed. I'm sure all the empathetic people on here know exactly what it's like to marry a south african in UAE and get beat up, assaulted, try to take your own life and subsequently get arrested for it. Yup, so many people have gone through the exact same they can all be totally understand and share the feels with her. She has my sympathy for this situation though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭JVince


    and there had been a lot of work done over the past few weeks too - this just pushed it over the line as UAE want the story to go away quickly.

    Would be interesting to know if her husband (soon to be ex) is still working with Emirates



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    “Ms McDonald said Ms Towey has been held captive by her abuser in Dubai and that he tried to strangle her on 28 June.”


    Fcking pr1ck- hope he rots in a prison there for the rest of his miserable life- oh wait no, he’ll get a medal for being a model male citizen and for upholding the great values of the Koran

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0710/1459119-tori-towey-dubai/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Well done, to all involved in making this happen.

    Come home Tori.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭flos1964


    Never a chance of anything but a quick resolution, Sheik Mohammed and his family with millions invested in his racing empire here in the curragh versus some south African filth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,691 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Your position is somewhat contradictory: how do you expect people to know this as widely as possible if, every time it happens to someone, the reactions is "Well what else did she expect?" If it isn't widely publicised, people won't know. Especially considering how the UAE states have a habit of misleading potential expats by letting them believe that they are modern and tolerant. I remember a British woman who was served alcohol on a local airline on one of those countries and was then arrested on arrival for having alcohol in her bloodstream.

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    If people do some research they'll find some of these rules also apply to men and indeed some of the lobbying to get them modernised comes from places like India who have a lot of people in Dubai. Because these laws have the effect of people not seeking help when it comes to suicide prevention. I think that's the reason there has been a change in approach to some of these laws. But obviously Its overlaps and compounded with other issues in countries that are not democracies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭techdiver


    What says a lot to me is the type of people who either praise or call Dubai a home/second home. The likes of the Tates (Andrew and Tristan) and the rest of the so called "red pill" shitbags love the place. So that alone should be a warning to people especially women as to what type of place it is.

    I have young kids and I'll be warning them to stay well away from places like that when they are older.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭893bet


    Well done Mary Lou. She got it sorted. She just has to figure out how to take credit now.



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    Wonderful news and great work by all involved, Mary Lou definitely deserves a nod.

    thought this was interesting

    Speaking on the same programme, Radha Stirling said she had validated the charges Ms Towey is facing with the Department of Public Prosecutions in Dubai.

    "So, there's been no differences to the charges . . . which is very bizarre since they allegedly decriminalised attempted suicide in the past couple of years."

    She said the UAE has also promoted that it has decriminalised alcohol consumption, "so, it's quite surprising that they would proceed to charge...take her to court knowing that she obviously needs help, needs to just go home with her family."




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