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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    It's was all benefits of colonialism and not the fact that Hong Kong iss relatively easy to control because it's mostly a city state?

    Give your head a wobble, lad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,627 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Actually China is more civilised than the west. If you want to see the future for the west, look at China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    I've started to really dislike Natasha O'Brien.

    I of course felt very sorry for her 10 days ago when the story initially broke and you could see how a massive injustice had occurred in both what happened to her and the pathetic lenient sentence handed out and agreed with her calls for a proper sentnece and that sumnbag Crotty's removal from the army, but as the days went by you began to sense their was an ulterior motive and today everything has come full circle and she's finally got round to the point of it all as she today at a Pride event called for new hate crime laws to be introduced.

    Once I saw Soc Dems, PBP and Ruth Coppinger beside her at some of her appearances and using her constantly I had a feeling something was up but was willing to give them, the benefit of the doubt and assume it was authentic concern for the injustice that had occured. Now we all know now she's just been deliberately platformed by these groups and they've just used her to push their agenda, they saw and opportunity and cynically exploited it. Whats worse is the injustice that happened to her has essentially been caused by the Bleeding hearts brigade who are now platforming her as they're the ones that come up with every excuse in the world for why criminals shouldn't receive harsher sentences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭micar


    Came here to post about here.

    She's lapping it all up.

    You can see her setting up a charity of some sort and drawing a tasty salary. Ironically….she could benefit a lot from this.

    What happened to her was dreadful. The guy should be in prison.

    I was assulted…..reported it, guy arrested, admitted the assault but nothing happened

    I've had 2 bikes stolen and 1 bike damaged beyond repair from an attempted theft……all reported and nothing came from them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,311 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Very fine people on both sides.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I think there's a strange contradiction in criticising people on benefits having children and also knowing we need more children to run the country as the population ages.

    If you're on benefits with a big family of 3 or 4 children, then you must have a very low expectation for your quality of life. And maybe they're right...

    I'm in a 2 income house, careful with money, finally saved enough to buy a house. Have one child and weighing whether we can afford to have another child if we also want to live what my parents generation would consider any kind of middle class lifestyle. By which I mean having enough to do nice things as a family, buy groceries, pay the mortgage and probably have a family holiday most years, save some money for school and uni for the child and have a pension to fall back on in later life.

    But I'm wondering if my expectations are wrong and people on benefits are more realistic. The era of normal people working on median income and owning a house, having a big family of 3 or 4 children and living comfortably, are coming to the end



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There is plenty of moaning and whinging from adults with no children about their holiday being cancelled as a result of the strikes. Adults who are old enough to understand the issues that are causing the strikes.

    How do you explain to a 5 year old that their holiday has been cancelled because the pilots are looking for increased pay and conditions at their employment, and have withdrawn their labour as a method of forcing through their demands?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭cms88


    I siad that last week it was only a matter of time before she started to milk the whole thing and it didn't take her very long to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭cms88


    How long before one of those get her to run in the next election?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭cms88


    How long before one of those get her to run in the next election?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭cms88


    You're kind of proving the point there. People without kids don't matter and we should all ''please think of the children''.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Are these kids of families on benefits going to work as adults or become layabouts like their parents though?

    If the latter, they won't be "running" anything, running to the bookies perhaps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I've no idea. They're children just like we were. I was brought up in a 2 working parent household and now I'm a parent in a 2 working parent household. That was the family culture I was brought up in. That's no credit to me.

    If you want to ensure children move from a family on benefits to work, then tge solution is obvious. Ensure the schools in low employment areas are the best in the country so the children can make the jump against the culture they were raised in.

    You didn't really engage with the point of my post. Which is that working a normal job won't give you the same lifestyle your parents could expect if they worked similar jobs like owning a house and having enough money to raise a big family of with 3 or 4 children.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Times change,. The days of 'The Simpsons' family: 1 x wage earner and 1 x homemaker, their own house and 3 or 4 kids are well gone for various reasons. And they're not coming back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Sh what's the incentive to work if you want a bug family? Do it working your arse off and live in relative poverty or do it without working and live in poverty. Not great choices if we want young people to have children, are they?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Schools being good makes no difference if there is zero encouragement from home.LeBron James has spent millions on a school in Ohio and the results in the school are horrific, and I suspect he could keep spending money and it would make no difference as people who generally do well do well in school because there is some emphasis on education within the household not because the teachers or school facilities are brilliant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Quality of education nakes no difference? Without going into the house, how can we encourage education and employment prospects?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    He spent millions just to prove that it's not the system's fault - but somehow I doubt that's what he intended to do. This should be a lesson, but unfortunately it's one of those things that are not supposed to be even noticed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    It can only make a difference if education is encouraged.No point having a wonderful school good facilities and then as soon as the kid goes home they aren't in an environment which encourages them to study and work hard and values education.

    One of the key factors on how well kids do across all income and ethnic categories is reading books. People who read as children do much better in life than those who don't.Kids who read books read because their parents get them interested in it and encourage them and this sparks curiosity amongst children which is a key to learning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Same as putting loads of top class soccer pitches in deprived areas, it likely wont produce the next Ronaldo, it will more likely see stolen cars burnt out on them at weekends, teenage drinking, vandalism, etc some people cant be helped, its usually only a tiny few who will break the cycle of crime and unemployment.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Smokers who want the government to ban tobacco so that they can finally give up are idiots



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Smokers who won't defend their habit are so annoying.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Religion is objectively speaking incredibly dumb , now granted lot's of things that provide relief for people are often dumb as well but leaving that aside, the idea of god doing one's bidding is no more mature than a child asking Santa Claus for presents

    By the way I attended mass until aged twenty one and while never devout , I went to confession circa three times per year and the journey to becoming an atheist was certainly not instant



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Joebrosaysno


    These sort are responsible for the nanny state where everyone gets punished in order to help them due to their own lack of self control. They would have no problem with lighting up a cigar to celebrate an occasion becoming a criminal offence due to their own infantile nature.



  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭Sono Topolino




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    A criminal conviction for not paying a fine from LUAS? 🤔



  • Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭Sono Topolino


    Yes - they claim to have an 80% conviction rate.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Redacted Circular


    If you are a tall and handsome man then you will live life on easy mode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭pgj2015




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    No, I don't. I had to struggle for every thing I got. It does indeed make it easier to get ladies' … attention but you cant put that on the table. I mean, you can. You know what I mean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭djan


    In fairness multitude of research has been done on this and is pretty conclusive. Attractive people do better when all other things equal in most cases.

    Doesn't necessarily lead to life on "easy mode" but does make things just that bit easier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Or maybe because attractive people have better genes, so they aren't just more attractive, they are also more intelligent and heathier, more capable to do more than the average. And somehow this sounds familiar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭djan


    I'm cautious about furthering the pity party and weird rabbit hole you're trying to go down but a lot has to do with how attractive people at assumed to have certain qualities within societies and the associated benefits of these.

    For example, attractive people tending to be more confident and assured and you get better partners (through wider choice) , careers and opportunities in life. Given that most attractive people would take car of their bodies, it stand to reason they are physically healthier too. Regarding natural intelligence, well that's quite hard to measure in the first place and I'd say attractiveness has no correlation there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I'd say good education and hard work gives you more life and career opportunities than good looks, but it's difficult to say that for sure because I had them all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭djan


    Agree that these are important too and is why I said earlier that attractiveness "doesn't necessarily lead to life on "easy mode" but does make things just that bit easier."

    There's moments and opportunities in life that are impacted by certain traits to a varying degree but often, a huge part of it comes down to sheer chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Apart from the chance of being born into wealth much more comes from making the right choices than from having good looks. Being smart and educated beats being handsome but dumb and ignorant, you won't make any kind of living from looks alone, and that's still true for women and their OF "opportunities".

    Which brings us to the next controversial opinion: OF models are, for lack of a better word that happens to start with W, sex workers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    I'm nearly six four and it was never once any use with scoring chick's

    I have zero sex appeal however

    Only very good looking women can coast through life trading on looks, men's value is always conditional, even to his nearest and dearest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    If you want to call then whores, why not just do it?

    My understanding of Only Fans is similar to porn actors. People act, others pay to watch them act. Sounds legit to me. It wouldn't matter how many OF actors there are, I won't subscribe to any of them. So I presume it's for people who are lonely because it's somewhat interactive, and that's sad.

    Instead of calling the seller a whole, I'd be more inclined to wonder why there's such a big market for paying for a bit of virtual company or intimacy. Thars also sad.

    But ultimately, adults can buy and sell things within the law, so I'd just leave them at it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,311 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Wonder will anyone trot out the ‘but they’re not paying tax!!!!’ line, that was, usually, the last gasp attack on these women.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I don't want to call them anything, it's not what I want, it's what they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I don't see any reason to attack them, they should be paying tax just like any other self employed individual. If they don't then they are committing tax evasion, and saying that is just stating facts, not attacking them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah but calling them whores is an attack on them, isn't it? Unless you mean whore as some kind of compliment?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    No, attacking them would imply some level of hate or at least some ill will on my side, which I have none. So I'm only stating a fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭Charlo30


    I prefer the Imperial system to the Metric system



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Is It? You had the term 'sex workers' but also chose to call them whores. It's pretty clear what you meant.

    Sex worker is a statement of fact as they work in the sex industry. Whore is a pejorative which isn't accurate as they're not prostitutes. So, it's clear what you mean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    They are in fact prostitutes (persons who engage in sexual activities for money), and they are persons of questionable morals, so the word is appropriate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Just on the recent discussion here, my controversial opinion is prostitution should be legal in Ireland and I think it is very backward that it isn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Cordell


    It should be legal indeed, being illegal creates more problems and solves none. Same for most drugs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,637 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Can you take part in sexual activity virtually? I would have thought it's an in person activity but I'd defer to you if you know.

    Is there a distinction between any sex worker and a prostitute? Is a stripper a prostitute because the dancing is a sexual act?

    But the obvious question is how you arrived a the conclusion they have questionable morals?



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