Republic of Ireland General Discussion Thread 2024 [use match threads for games]

It's better than what I was expecting.

And better than some of the experienced managers mentioned like Poyet and Lennon.

USA Vs Jamaica is nowhere near a fair comparison. 3-1 is good for them.

because the Icelandic football pyramid produced good footballers

good enough that they played in all the top leagues in Europe

better than Ireland for example

and with a better domestic league

There will always be a split fan base when it comes to football. No fan base will ever fully agree on things. Will be interesting to see the reaction from ex players to this appointment.

For some their buddy O'Shea didn't get the job and to others HH has never coached in England. They'll probably bang on about how the lad doesn't understand Irish football.

Just reading there that during his stint as Jamaica manager he spent most his time living in Jamaica. Something that probably also appealed to the FAI that he's likely open to relocating here.

There are plenty of examples of managers being unable to get the best from good players.

Aside: the LOI is definitively a stronger league than the Icelandic league (despite their champions knocking out Rovers in last year's CL). LOI is ranked 35th vs 41st for Iceland.

Now that's a new take.

Looking at a successful track record and not giving any credit to the manager.

We'd some people bending over backwards to try and illustrate SK progress when results were absolutely dire.

In our current predicament they absolutely are the only thing that matters. How brilliant would it have been to be in euro 2024, for the supporters, for the country. No one would give a toss how we got there.

"Earlier this year, we identified him as our #1 candidate.."

I mean, technically last week is earlier this year. I also think the word "remaining" needs be put between #1 and candidate.

Some folk prioritise having greater possesion as more important than the scoreline.

Its wrong but thats what some think.

Sorry I thought your post was sarcastic and saying he done a bad job at Jamaica. Thought my post made that clear.

Very good article up thread about the recent success of Icelandic football. Gives you most of what you want to know about how and why they done so well.

Philosophys are nonsense in international football. You can't buy players to fit your style, you have limited coaching time, you need to play to your strengths.

We've tried the "good football" experiment it was a disaster.

There is no football more negative than not producing results

Id say Jamaica is a much easier relocation sell than Ireland though 😅

You do see people throwing out mad ones like Mourinho. There’s no reality involved.

Right.

Strange one.

Experience doing what we want him to do, twice, is a fairly important box to tick alright tho yeah.

I guess by your logic, if we appointed Jurgen Klopp, you'd still want to hold judgement until we see how he performs. And that's fine, that's true with everyone,I'm just not sure what else could have satisfied you at this stage of the managerial life cycle.

Would you say Ireland have better players at the moment than the Iceland team he managed?

Comes across well in the interview. Another box the FAI wanted ticked was a manager who'll have involvement with more than the senior team.

Would imagine he'll be doing that with us given the interviewer brought it up for Hallgrimsson to talk about his experience of doing that in past jobs.

so back to 442

Who will be the centre midfielders over the next few years?

Such muck on the RTE panel ahead of the Netherlands v England game. Richie questioning why the interview conference with the new Irish football manager Heimir Hallgrimsson is tomorrow, clashing with the women's team's press conference ahead of an "important" match on Friday, detracting from other issues as well(issues which Richie's shoehorned himself into). Absolute nonsense! Ireland have 2 matches left, they're bottom of the group having lost all 4 games, and no prospect of qualification. More woke BS.

And Joanne Cantwell then turning to Didi Hamann, asking what do you think when a former Irish international sitting beside you is saying this. 🙄 He has 1 meaningless cap in a friendly against Jamaica, ironically enough.