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COVID-19 in Summer 2024

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  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭CorneliusBrown


    I’ve had to visit someone in the hospital very frequently recently and I don’t believe I’ve seen one mask, either on staff or patients, including the respiratory ward so I dunno, I think it’s over



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Capitalism.

    The CEO of an airline wanted isolation reduced because of his staff being out sick. He got what he wanted.

    The isolation period was reduced so that people wear a well fitting mask afterwards. People are forgetting that part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    day 3 here .
    Symptoms that gave it away were that Covid voice coming back and from there it was a sore throat , temperature and chills.
    3days in it is a constant cough , chest infection and mild temperature
    I had Covid as late as last October and this is slightly worse .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,715 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I haven’t coughed at all. I hope I don’t get a cough. Never had a temperature either. Day 6 here and I’m working today. About 90% better I’d say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭JesseJane


    I'm day 3 here. I work for the HSE and work with vulnerable people so had to test. I had it back in 2021 and very similar. For me the headaches are by far the worst part. My whole head is literally throbbing which is making me feel so sick but I'm not getting sick. I am HOPING by tomorrow, day 4, I'll be somewhat improved because I can barely stand up for longer than five minutes at a time! Rotten ole virus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Had you tested negative, what would you have done? Given you work with the HSE. Just curious



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭cryptocurrency


    I was asked if I was double vaccinated recently on a health form for a new job. Said I had to be so I had to tell them no. I await the call to the next stage. Thought it was very strange question in 2024.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭JesseJane


    If I was sick obviously I would have to have taken sick leave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Thanks for answering. I hope you feel better soon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    @odyssey06 they are using that word "mild" again.

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/very-transmissible-covid-strain-evolving-away-from-vaccine-1740820

    A ‘very transmissible’ COVID-19 variant is spreading across Ireland – and it is 'evolving away' from the strain in the vaccines. 

    The F-Lineage Recombinant Type (FLiRT) group are new variants of COVID that emerged from Omicron.

    These variants are “quite mild” compared to earlier COVID variants among healthy people, Prof Mills explained.

    If you end up with the new variant, however, Prof Mills said it can help you build immunity for the future. 

    “Obviously, you don't want to get infected if you're very vulnerable,” he said. “But the disease is very mild in healthy individuals. 

    “So getting the disease, you're actually getting the variant that's circulating, so you're getting good immunity.” 

    According to Johns Hopkins University, the symptoms of the FLiRT variants are the same as other COVID strains – although they are weaker. 

    These symptoms include a sore throat, runny nose, cough and shortness of breath – particularly among people who are not vaccinated. 

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Mild compared to other variants.

    Same points by and large as before.

    Nowhere does it say this is a mild disease full stop in terms of its overall impact which was the previous misrepresentation.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    The article says weaker than other variants at first, then goes on to call the disease "very mild in healthy individuals". So basically a weaker strain is becoming the dominant strain, with the belief from Trinity College Dublin immunologist Professor Kingston Mills that getting it isn't 'that bad' of a thing for those who are healthy

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/very-transmissible-covid-strain-evolving-away-from-vaccine-1740820

    “They cause more upper respiratory tract infections than lower,” he told The Pat Kenny Show.

    “That's not as dangerous because when it goes into the lung, it can be very severe and can result in pneumonia and death.” 

    https://www.wlrfm.com/news/huge-rise-in-covid-19-cases-in-past-week-366666

    "Kingston Mills, Professor of Experimental Immunology at Trinity College Dublin said despite the increase we should not be overly concerned. "The ICU cases are very low so it's much milder than it has been," he said.

    "The latest variants have evolved to be more infectious but do not cause as much severe disease as the earlier variants.""



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    They're doing a good job at tricking us. That's for sure. They want us to stop caring about covid and say it's mild and it's only the vulnerable at risk. Meaning you, the reader will be fine. Bad things happen to others but not you.

    This isn't true at all, and the science clearly shows it's not true, but somehow we let them get away with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    What do they, including the Trinity immunologist, gain from lying?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭SpoonyMcSpoon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭Dano650


    Are people still worried about covid? There has been a significant rise in cases the last few weeks but it looks like a majority of people don't care about it anymore. You rarely see a person wear a face mask now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    It's interesting to see what is being refferred to as a significant increase, though. This number only shows people who have been positive in labs, i.e. it isn't going to know Bob Smith did an antigen and was positive. But if you compare it to the 1000s of cases that were recorded not that long ago

    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-41432677.html

    "There were 28 covid cases in the week of May 27 in Cork city, with these numbers increasing weekly to 39, 70, 84 and then 87 last week."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,364 ✭✭✭mojesius


    My husband and I caught it about a month ago, kids didn't catch it. I spent one day in bed asleep/feverish etc. and felt wiped for about 3 days but nothing like the first dose I caught a few years ago. My sense of smell and taste feels further diminished though, particularly sense of smell.

    We stayed away from other people for approx 5 days aside from going to vote, we wore masks and went in late.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Hi,

    Just spotted this thread .

    Anyone have flu symptoms at the moment? 🤧



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Have it atm .

    Had to cancel some appointments and was told that " every second person has it " !

    Not very scientific I know but when you are only testing those admitted to hospital its not going to show up a rise in community cases .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Thanks, only suddenly got flu like symptoms yesterday, aches & pains, just feeling rubbish. Not sure if its covid or plain flu.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Very unlikely to be flu at this time of year, it is more seasonal than covid.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Thanks,the weather is so unseasonally cold for this time of year also..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I’ve never taken a covid test but if and when I develop symptom’s of any respiratory nature or a temperature I’ll do so.

    I’ll just isolate if feeling unwell or testing positive , it’s not a big deal, reading, gaming, watching TV….. be grand.

    My cousin’s entire family have covid…they were on a Mediterranean cruise, got back into Dublin Sunday or Monday and the next day all 5 with symptoms and confirmed with tests. Symptoms are mild even though 3 are asthmatic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,964 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    I'm absolutely battered by it this time round. First time I got it in early 2021 I had very mild fever and chills for a day and that was more or less it. I haven't had it since then (knowingly at least) but this time I'm on day 3 of symptoms and not really getting any better. Headache, sore throat, congested, cough, bit short of breath, fever and aches & pains all over. Paracetamol helps but it's still rotten, much worse than any cold or flu I've had in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    As odyssey said no flu around .

    Have you a bad cough as well ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Only starting to feel slightly better day 4 but still miserable .

    Cough is the worst .Dry barking continuously, making me retch .Sorry tmi .

    Have started a spray on my doctor's suggestion to ease my throat every couple of hours and it has helped but still taking paracetamol.

    Absolutely drownded wet , sheets and PJs , a few times in the last 24hours and finally think it has 'broken ' ,temperature now settling .

    This is a lot worse than Omicron .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭I am me123


    No, just suddenly developed aches & pains in both my shoulders out of nowhere. Had a sore throat two days ago that cleared up quickly enough. No cough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Doesn't sound like my dose.

    I and my oh had similar about a month ago and didn't test positive .

    All aches and pains everywhere .

    He was worse than me and tested a couple of times , So we had antigen tests in the house .The lines went nearly black straight away when I tested the other day .

    What I am saying is you won't know for sure unless you test .

    If you are not coughing and spluttering there is no real issue after a few days anymore as long as you avoid those vulnerable or high risk so the guidance says .

    We test because I am are high risk and one of my family is also , so need to know .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,715 ✭✭✭✭fits


    we didn’t cough either. Aches and pains and headaches. Stuffed nose and sinus pain. Definitely had it. Tested positive. It was all upper respiratory.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,964 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    Is the guidance for staying away from others still 5 days from symptom onset? I've had symptoms since Tuesday and have a family event Saturday. I've improved a good bit today but still have a dry cough, congestion and a sore throat that I think is mainly from coughing. I know people might say don't be stupid nobody is isolating etc. but I have vulnerable relatives that I'd prefer not to put at risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Heckler


    After feeling poorly wednesday and thursday last I tested myself positive on friday. Still positive today. Sore throat, low energy. Informed work but was told to come in as usual tomorrow. HSE guidelines are very confusing. Will clarify with management in the morning that they were informed and if theres any spread and subsequent illness/people out sick its on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    The advice is definitely confusing. Wednesday would be your Day 0, so your fifth day would be Monday, i.e. come back on Tuesday

    When I had it in November, HSE Live told me you could be positive for months and to not do anymore tests. Just complete the five days. There was also something about not having a fever, I think for 24 or 48 hours before finishing too. You’re also supposed to avoid vulnerable people for 5 days after (an impossible ask, I think). I combatted this by isolating for six days, and wearing a mask in work for the final four days (and I worked from a private office instead of the open plan). I did six as I’m allowed one WFH day a week, so I used my WFH day then. I asked if I could work from home for the final four days and was told no



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 5,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    I had mild symptoms yesterday (headache and blocked nose) and they still insist today so I did a test- came back positive straight away. For now headache is the main symptom, really hitting me.

    Unsure where I caught it, I haven't been in close contact with a single person since Friday. Very unlucky I reckon...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    My Missus tested positive yesterday . I have symptoms today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Btw, there is already a thread to discuss symptoms if you're positive. This thread was just to discuss restrictions/guidance that's in place in 2024



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭Dano650




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    There won't be any except for maybe hospitals and mask wearing at doctors.

    Covid is rampant at the moment. People have moved on.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭Grey123


    Currently have covid, symptoms very mild, wast tired day one and two and a blocked nose. However the 5 days is very inconvenient. Is it still more dangerous than a common cold? Or is it simply that we can test for it?

    I hear its everywhere but don't hear about people cancelling things / out of work.

    I suspect lots don't test or even if they do maybe don't meet an old / venerable person but don't cancel all other plans and keep working?

    How does the current strain compare to say the common cold? Basically am I a mug for staying home?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It is in another level of risk to a cold. You dont know who is vulnerable just by looking at them. Its a roll of the dice, most cases come out like a cold or flu but then theres the small number of cases that end up severe.

    If you pass it onto your friends and colleagues even if they dont end up in hospital, could floor them and there go their plans and work.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭Grey123


    if that your feeling or facts on the current variation? How does it compare to say the flu. If people get the flu they will stay home when sick but if feeling better after a few days don’t generally think about masks or isolation days


    Just wondering if we are treating it differently because we can test for it or because of risk at this stage

    While it’s everywhere I don’t hear I workplaces struggling because of isolation guidelines…




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    There is an element of the test making it more obvious and harder to ignore - unless you ignore / dont testing.

    Dont have info for very latest strain but in the recent vaccines thread the info showed Omicron strains as still significantly more severe than flu.

    Also with covid mutating more rapidly than flu with multiple waves per year, it is less of a known quantity than a flu strain and so potentially each strain could throw up nasty surprises. You arent going to know that if you have picked up mild dose of it mid wave.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Obviously we should all be conscious of everyone (such as staying home if positive), but am I wrong for thinking that if you know you’re vulnerable, you’re responsible for keeping yourself safe? Wear a mask, sanitise, etc. I don’t see why you should have to go around assuming everyone is vulnerable. And even at that, people here have drawn the line at not going out when sick. Look at Y’all Masking on Twitter. Most people there there have drawn a line at wearing a mask. Some have drawn the line at a mask you’d see someone wearing in Chernobyl. Or even above, odyssey, you said what if you give it to a friend and they have to cancel plans. Okay, so what? Why am I responsible for ensuring that you are okay for your plans, that’s your responsibility. If you’re not masking and avoiding certain scenarios that one could deem unsafe.. well, tough luck if you have to miss a flight.

    At the end of the day, I don’t think it’s wrong to be a bit selfish. We’re all trying our best and want to live our best lives. There is being reckless (such as getting Covid and going into a nursing home without a mask and coughing on everyone), and there is accepting a risk that everyone human faces (going outside with a cold and negative test). I have seen so many people saying they’ll never take their mask off. Where were you before 2019? The world didn’t collapse around us, nor will it right now. People say “it’s worse than a cold”, which means nothing. A cold is a cold. You feel rotten for a few days (potentially!), and move on. Some people seem to be obsessed with the idea that Covid is world ending. Where? We are apparently in a huge surge right now around the world. Where are the mass graves we saw in 2020, or soaring death rates, or overrun hospitals? I know some point to empirical evidence, and maybe I’m fortunate, but I am seeing no real world evidence of this. In my privileged bubble, people are sick and going about their day as normal prior to Covid, and things are fine, as they were before 2019

    Biden was sick, looking like he was on death’s door, walking around greeting people and kissing them. Then he tested positive, and walked around his staff and press without a mask telling everyone he’s fine walking onto his plane. He could have isolated wherever he was, but instead he took a flight to his home to isolate there. This is the President of the United States. Do you think this would be allowed if it was so dangerous the world was going to end? I highly doubt it. In 2021, I tested positive for Covid. Within two days I tested negative on a PCR, and I had so much guilt forcing myself to stay inside even though I was negative. Eamon Ryan tested positive around the same time, so they did another test and it was negative, and he went about his business as normal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭ottolwinner


    I’ve heard of people testing positive and being very I’ll with it as recent as yesterday

    I wear a mask in medical settings and noticed a lot of medical professionals returning to mask wearing also.
    I’ve never had covid but were I to get symptoms I’d isolate for myself as well as others. Not really social when I’m under the weather anyhow.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It is the responsible thing to do in society. Not doing so is a selfish thing to do.

    Did you warn your friends you are meeting that you have covid, let them make their choices to avoid the risk?

    It is a balance. There is a responsibility on both sides. People turning up to offices or events obviously sick, and I don't mean post viral stuff like fatigue or a lingering cough. Sneezing and coughing gunk over others.

    Pre Covid it will still an irresponsible and short sighted thing to do imo - delaying both their own recovery, and crippling the productivity of the team who in sequence pick it up, chest infections, flus etc.

    It is worse than a cold. Symptoms like a cold are in its range but it also runs the range to severe cases.
    So you should not be approaching that because it was like a cold it will be like that for others.
    That's the material difference between carrying on your business with a cold v covid.

    Also it is summer now, impact of a covid surge now on hospitals etc is less than it would be in winter.

    And doesn't have to be mass graves or world ending to be something of concern, people should be responsible also if they have certain diseases to avoid pregnant women. And yes, pregnant woman take a responsibility on themselves to be careful but you can only take so many precautions.

    To go up a notch, AIDS isn't world ending either, but there is a responsibility to take precautions.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Senature


    For years now friends of mine would warn each other when meeting up if anyone in their house had a vomiting bug as they are nasty and can spread like wildfire. Everyone can then choose whether to meet up or not, or the person would cancel. Bit of common courtesy and common sense goes a long way.

    Personally I would not be keen to meet up with someone with very recent covid or a household member with covid. It won't end the world but I don't need the hassle of being sick / wrecked for a week. Self employed and not eligible for sick pay and still have all the work to catch up on when I get back to it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Joe Biden is an ass. Goes home to isolate but not before passing it around to everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,162 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Two elderly relatives have it this week ( 82 and 81) one in hospital and one at home .Both very sick with confusion and vomiting also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    One obvious reasons for workplaces not struggling with isolation is the fact that so many people are remote working these days and while workers may be sick for a few days they may be able to manage to put in more time at home than they would if traditional work practices were continued

    Secondly there are many people getting quite sick because of vulnerability . It is not the same as severe illness in the past thankfully because of vaccinations and immunity but this variant currently going around has mutated to evade our immune protection a little bit more so hence the recent increased number of cases.

    In my family I am the only one to catch this and nearly 2 weeks later am still sick .Apparently not infectious anymore but still coughing and pretty wiped out .

    It is recommended to be avoiding anybody vulnerable for 10 days , others 5 days post positive test or 2 days post symptoms resolving .

    I tested positive 10 days after first symptoms and have just tested negative today at 13 days after first symptoms .

    I am testing for various reasons , family occasion with other vulnerable relatives coming up next week for example

    Otherwise no need to test just stay clear of others for the required length of time because this can still be particularly nasty for some people , even if you are fine.

    Like any other infectious disease now it should be common courtesy not to be blasé about passing it on .



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