Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

that wasn’t on my 2024 bingo card but has been on my wishlist!

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So, I'll ask you the question that I've been asking everyone else for the last fortnight and a lot of people have been reluctant to answer.

Who steps UP, and why are they worthy of it?

Harris is right their.

She isn't the most inspiring of candidates but Trump is incredibly beatable so Biden steps aside for her and then everyone gets to work.

The swing state polling right now is dire for Biden and the age issue is not going away for him, Harris at least kills that stone dead. She is only a few points behind Trump anyway so yeah she can get it done.

If you want someone to win Michigan a key state and similar then you have Whitmer.

Neither of those 2 are slam dunks obviously, but look at the state of Biden and the polling so why they don't deserve a shot?

Gotta come together across the aisle for once and put the public pressure on the congress, the whole congress.

Too many people don't like Harris. She'll be too detrimental.

Whitmer said she's not interested in running, even if Biden steps down…and that was 48 hrs ago.

Neither are slam dunks because they're non-runners.

So who, realistically, steps up?

This is just damage control. I can see him doing a junket of these interviews from now until the convention but the more he does, the more that Trump's campaign can say Biden only sounds coherent in set piece interviews by sympathetic media outlets and teleprompted speeches.

Are these interviews expected to win over undecided voters, or are they just designed to quell the disquiet among his own party and donors?

Even at that, the narrative is kind of out of his hands because a number of people who are in a position to influence public opinion, eg Jon Stewart, have called on Biden to step aside and even if they try to walk such statements back, which I doubt, they'll still have said them. It'll still be out there.

In order for Biden to win the election, he's going to need some combination of another and much better debate performance against Trump and also enough voters becoming aware of what a threat Trump represents. Also making sure that the RNC can't pull any big shenanigans on election day with regards to partisan poll workers.

I don't think it's ego. Regardless of what happens (stays on, steps down) for optics he must treat it as if he's 100% committed until the moment he has to step down (or stay on and face Trump).

I was thinking about this last night, forgive the sporting analogy, but no matter what team sport football, rugby, hurling, if its late in the game and you, the manager, are thinking of replacing your captain, then you would have your next best player off the bench and warming up on the sidelines.

The Dems have no-one warming up. So calls for Biden to step down is disingenuous. I am sure Biden would have happily passed the torch by now if there was someone suitable, but the truth is, there's no-one.

While Harris is the obvious one, the reality is that she is unpopular. Unfortunately in some states, being black and a woman is too much of a leap for some voters who would probably go with old, batshit crazy white guy instead.

I'd have an opposite opinion.

The media frenzy about this is intense and will be extremely damaging for Biden's campaign. Theytried to end the frenzy with the defiant 'I'm still running and that's that' message but it didn't stop the media focus, and I don't think they'll ever stop it. As long as Biden is the candidate it'll drag on all the way to election. At this point, considering all the media coverage and the open Democratic turmoil, I think Biden being the Democratic nominee more or less guarantees a loss. He simply will not energise the Democrat-leaning or independent votes enough to capture swing states.

So who else can step up? Just as one example, Josh Shapiro - certainly something of an unknown, but he wouldn't be by election time, and would help with Pennsylvania. He's a centrist, but that might help to court independents.

This is going to be a Keep Trump Out election, just like the last one. Give the Democrats somebody to rally round, and give the Anybody but Trump voter somebody palatable to vote for, and you have, in my opinion, a far better chance than a Biden ticket.

More than anything, do it quickly, and get the negative press in the rear view mirror, and give the new candidate time to campaign.

Re: Buttigieg, if America isn't ready for a black, female President, they sure as shit aren't ready for a gay one.

But he's gay.

Well thats that then.

I'm curious, what is QANON music?

That well known politico George Clooney.

I nearly want Biden to turn to someone on camera and say, "If I did step aside, who would take my place?".

And answer came there none.

Clooney is apparently an influential voice within the democratic party and a large fundraiser for them.

Pelosi's comments along with reported comments from Schumer are doing more damage though.

What is starting out like a trickle, is going to turn into a tidal wave of urges and comments about Biden stepping down.

But you are right, who is going to take his place. The obvious one is Harris, but even a lot of Democrats are lukewarm on the idea as she polls not much better than Biden. Can she win a national vote? I dont think so.

This is a problem of of the Democrats own making to be honest.

Kamala Harris isn't liked because she is a thoroughly unlikable character. It's got very little to do with her race or gender. I think Trump would beat her well in a debate . To be honest I can't see her stepping up. She's got a huge ego but she's not completely silly.

No I think Biden will trudge on and Trump will beat him well in November . If Biden did have some humility and step down then the repercussions in the democratic party would be huge. The Democrats are like the left...they turn on each other given a half a chance. The likes of Ortiz and the far left squad would look to unsurp the centrists. It would be a disaster but then it's going to ve a disaster anyway. Personally I think Trump is the best option. Putin wouldn't be in Ukraine if Trump was in the top job. Anda word on NATO. The US wants Germany to pull up its socks. It's military us a joke..badly led and WOKE. The only thing between the Ukraine and Paris if Russia were to over run Ukraine would be Poland. People underestimate the Russian capability. They've a serious military machine up and running . If heaven forbid the Ukrainians collapse then why would the Russian armies keep rolling.. NATO as it stands wouldn't save the Baltics and probably not Poland