Kilkenny GAA Thread

That is a great post, especially point 4.

I disagree Charlie 69, we do not have the players, we struggled to beat any team in Leinster round robin with the exception of Antrim. How would Cork, Clare or Limerick do against Carlow ?? Players like Deegan, Mossy, Richie Reid, Tommy Walsh are good honest hurlers, but that's about it, TJ is 38 in 2025 and will more than likely continue, we have no impact off the bench and i nearly got sick when i seen Fogarty come on, i agree with the posts criticising management, cannot believe we have not found 1 good sub. Eoin Cody is not going to be the top top intercounty forward we were praying for unfortunately, a very good forward but not a Henry, TJ, Eddie, Gillane, Callinan etc.

Management have to find 4/5 new players next year.

The game Sunday was the highest standard i have ever seen when it comes to hurling. The quick puck outs have transformed the game and the ball is in play much longer as a result. How long was wasted before the quick puck outs came in pucking out the ball. Frees are the problem but the referee was excellent Sunday. The mass defences are a thing of the past due to the short game and scoring from distance, it was great to see 2 teams play like they did Sunday, the striking, the physicality, the fielding, the pace, the tactics, the short game. It was all on display Sunday.

Great job that teaching.

if not blowing the whistle for frees makes an excellent ref then he was the best ever :)

I wouldn't let me near a team, it's easy from the sidelines.

100% tbiggertycome… the players are there if they get proper coaching.

The puck out can’t be taken without the nod from the ref after a score, so many rules not being applied now though.

Donal Og’s comments have heaped pressure on the ref for the final now in relation to thrown balls. That will suit Cork down to the ground of course.

I know Mossy was blown for a good hand pass against Clare and they got a point from the free in a close game, take that score away and we can tap over the last free for a draw but I actually have no problem with that kind of hand pass being blown if the ref can’t see clear separation.

Cork lost 1.1 v Limerick as a result of the ref calling a throw ball when it wasn't. You didn't hear Pat Ryan complain? Every team is throwing the ball and has some players worse than others. Players have also got better at this skill and it's hard to spot a genuine throw ball. Easy to just constantly say its a throw ball, it doesn't make you right just because you say it. Anyway, it's not the throw ball that's costing us from challenging these teams, it's our forward play. Yes, we might need a corner back, and maybe a will o donoghue type midfielder, but the balance up top isn't right. As another poster has said, look at the quality ball delivered to Gillane. Cody could and would be lethal with that service.

I’m not sure what you mean?… I wasn’t complaining about referees blowing for throws, I said I had no problem with it if clear separation wasn’t obvious.

Dalton alluded to the ferocity of their A v B internal matches, I’d say Pat Ryan has adopted the Cody internal match method, you fight like a dog to win a jersey and you won’t be getting any frees.

Cork hurling had a niceness to it since 2005, but Ryan has these lads wired up and fighting like dogs.

Both Clare and Cork will genuinely feel they can win this final, which hopefully means it will be a cracked of a final.

The ball into our forwards has being poor a long time now,not a weighted pass or backs and forwards on the same page. Some of the ball from defence last Saturday was scandalous. We feared what might happen when the pressure came on and unfortunately this is what came to fruition. Nothing wrong with route one at times but route one after retreating is shocking. In summary it wasn't a step forward so next year is a huge year for lyng. Has he brought anything new to the table? That's debatable. He has kept Cody's team and discarded new lads quickly. He failed to find or look for a number 4 and 6. To be fair cian Kenny has stepped up and donnelly has had a good season along with billy ryan He will have to look hard at trying to find a few forwards. I don't know if looking for browne,leahy and Alan Murphy to come back is the awnser. I think lyng should freshen his backroom team and this includes a high profile s&c coach. He simply can't go back with the same squad and expect different results next year. I wonder if fionn macekssey goes well for olg could he be a option for kk at 6. It's a long time away now but david fogarty,niall Rowe, Jeff neary and clifford should definitely be tried in defence. Blanchfield should be tried and left at 6. Billy drennan needs a huge championship with his club but to me it looks like he needs to be put on a individual training plan. Marty Murphy,Harry shine,Stephen donnelly,geroid dunne could all do with a good club campaign. Last Saturday will hurt management for a while.What would molloy,Shane Murphy and Owen Wall be thinking after that?regarding the county board getting credit for the purchase of land this is 20 years over due. The red light has being flashing a long time now it's 10 years without a minor and senior and one u21 In twenty years that's absolutely very poor I'm anyones language. Kk aren't judged on winning leinsters or losing by one point to the u20 winners. Mindsets have to change. Eddie brennan,Tom mullally and Brian dowling should be sought after and get them involved because theres plenty of vacancies or there definitely should be.

look I’d say it wasn’t credit given to the county board for the purchase of land just relief by everyone and hopefully it will rise the county out of the present gloom. It has to start somewhere and it may as well be now. As box to box said the panel that was there last year was hardly touched so these lads will have to get a proper chance and not having to quit out of sheer frustration which I believe a few of them are in dispair it’s not easy putting their young lives on hold and getting no return.

A member of the panel, non playing I would suggest and unnamed? An unnamed source, now where have I heard that before? It certainly doesn't render anything loosely suggested i.e gossip as being "absolute fact".

Reading about our supporters in the mirror and their nasty behaviour on the kilkenny gaa supporters facebook page I have to say our supporters are really a disgrace and up their with the English soccer supporters. Very disappointing.

I have no reason to be coming on here talking shite and yes I know it’s a fact. Obviously I won’t be naming names I also understand that anyone could claim anything they like on here and of course you’re entitled to believe what you want so I’ll leave it at that.