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*Gas* BBQ/Grilling

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Interesting that on the warranty, there is no obligation to keep the bbq covered.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 justdavidalone


    I usually charcoal than the electric grill. I just really can't get the vibe using electric there's a fulfillment feeling using charcoal and fanning it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Horse Quack


    Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably cheap gas griddle/flat top? A Blackstone knock off basically.

    I have a Weber charcoal kettle which I am happy with but looking to get a griddle for doing burgers, sausages etc quickly and using the Weber for longer cooks.

    The Blackstone 22” is around €350 which seems a bit much for a secondary grill.

    nisbets has this but I don’t know much about it https://www.nisbets.ie/buffalo-outdoor-gas-griddle/cr886

    thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Would you consider getting a 2nd hand Weber Q2200 or some variation of same?

    And then something like this (which I have)

    GFTIME 6559 38.9 X 27.5CM Grill Griddle Replacement Part for Weber Q200, Q2000 Series Grills, Cast Iron Grill Plate for Weber Q200, Q220, Q240, Q260, Q2000, Q2200, Q2400, Grill Spare Parts 1 Pack https://amzn.eu/d/hnef0d6

    I have a Weber Charcoal kettle too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,730 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    7 year / start of its 8th season Sahara started first time there - heating it up to burn off anything built up over the winter and knock out some burgers for tonights dinner.

    Its stored outdoors all the time, under the official cover, which does fly off every so often in the wind and needs replacing due to UV damage every few years.

    I've replaced the 'flavour bar' baffles due to rust, and the grill structure because I wanted the newer type - it could probably have done a year or two more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Horse Quack


    I'd consider it all right, but haven't seen many decent second hand options, maybe some will come online as people buy newer models leading in to the summer. No real rush on it anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    There was a mint one on Adverts yesterday for 100 euro. Went quickly. If you setup a search alert for Weber, am pretty sure you'll get one quickly enough.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭ShadowSA


    I got our Weber Q2200 for 199 from Woodies last year, keep your eyes open and you might get a similiar deal, very happy with it, no need for anything bigger, have used mine throughout winter as well. Today we made toasted cheese and onion sandwiches on it. Best purchase!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    B&Q currently have 20% off all BBQs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭poker--addict


    any good deals recently on some of the known brands?

    😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭AuldDaysul


    I got a Sahara S350 in woodies last week, 10% off first online order brought it down to €405. Got a few accessories and a nice awning to keep it dry. Very happy with the S350 so far. Went with Sahara as they are very responsive to problems and parts.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,415 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    speaking of Sahara, anyone have any experience with the Storm double burner?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    Did a cook tonight on my S350. Into my 3rd summer with it and still loving the timber side trays. Super handy for loading up in & out of the kitchen. Also I have the griddle pan and use that for frying up veg - esp onions. Top tray great for keeping everything warm. Havent had an issue with anything - but I do keep it tidy enough and in the garage when not in use.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Joined the Darkside or is that the Lightside! 😜 Charcoal will still be my go to for big cooks but this will be handy for quick ones.

    Weber Q2000 for €104 after cashback. Other models have cashback also if you want a bigger model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    Is this legit? Have you actually received the cashback?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    advertised in woodies at the moment also - I think you just need copy of proof of purchase - a brilliant offer if the bbq is what you’re looking for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Off course it's on several sites.

    Still have to collect and need serial number to process cashback. Will probably take a few weeks to come back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    100 Euro plus change for the Q2000 is excellent value.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Seems to be a limit to how many redemptions can be made - currently just over 7000 left



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Popped down to the local Woodies to check it out. It has a smaller cooking surface than a three burner but definitely big enough to cater for a family of four plus. They said the offer is valid in Woodies for the next two weeks. €100 for a decent Weber bbq, bargain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Just a ribeye and fillet steak to test it out, very pleased with it up there with the best bargains I've got. Very convenient and clean, will get a smoker box or try with aluminium pouch.

    Good sized cooking area but it is pretty portable as you can take the grill off the legs/base. With the 6kg Flowgas Gaslight cylinder it would make a good camping BBQ for a family.

    Got a 11Kg cylinder, our kitchen is going to be out of action for a couple of weeks later in the summer so it's going to get a fair bit of use.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Available in Woodies Lucan. Bargain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Aldi wagyu burgers, honestly best store bought burgers I've ever cooked. I'd actually only say mincing my own ribeye was better. Kimchi relish was very good also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭nhg


    Did they create much of a flare up?
    I cook them on a pan & drain off the fat as they cook, I was afraid to chance them on the bbq due to the amount of fat they lose during cooking



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭Ryath


    They flared up a bit but not badly, was only a couple of table spoons of grease in the tray and a good bit of that would be from the rashers and some from the cheese. 3 mins each side on full blast. Put the cheese straight on after I turned them. Could have waited another minute or cut the cheese thicker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,216 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    We just got a q2000 as well, first gas bbq I think I've ever owned so looking forward to trying it out!

    Looking for some advice around the gas though. We have two 47kg propane tanks from a gas fire we removed a few years ago. These thanks should be full.

    So if I wanted to use these with the q2000, can I just get something like this?

    https://amzn.eu/d/03P6YCI2

    Also thinking of maybe using quick release connectors on the gas line so we can swap out the weber and a pizza oven. Thinking about something like this, any opinions?

    https://amzn.eu/d/07gVpreN

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,216 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    To semi update my own post, still not sure if its a good idea or not, but that is not the right regulator for here:

    This (probably) is:

    https://shop.calorgas.ie/calor-essentials/gas-regulators/calor-37mbar-propane-screw-on-gas-regulator-2m-hose-clips-kit-roi.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    You would be best to avoid a no-name branded regulator off Amazon. Whilst regulators are relatively simple devices, they need to be decent quality in both their materials used and manuacturing process. If a regulator were to fail, the consequences could be catastrophic.

    Calor sells Cavagna Group branded regulators (like the one you have linked) - an Italian brand and are one of the most commonly used regulators. Stick with them and you cant go wrong, especially as they arent overly expensive. It the same brand as weber supply.

    The weber Q2000 User Guide does have note the following info on lpg gas cylinder connections.

    • In the United Kingdom (same goes for Ireland), this appliance must be fitted with a regulator complying with BS 3016, having a nominal output of 37 millibars.
    • The length of hose must not exceed 1.5 metres.
    • Only a nationally approved low-pressure hose and regulator must be used.
    • Replacement pressure regulators and hose assemblies must be those specified by the outdoorcooking gas appliance manufacturer.

    The guide also states "Only use cylinders with a minimum capacity of 2,5 kg and a maximum capacity of 13 kg". That being said I use a 34kg cylinder for my Sahara S350 - but I have the correct regulator, a quality hose fitting and check it regularly. A 47kg cylinder would give you a few seasons worth of regular barbequing I would think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    This is a great short video on how regulators work.

    The main difference between our regulators to the one in the video are;

    (i) the pressure relief vent is a just small hole rather than a screened opening and

    (ii) ours do not have an adjustment screw (i.e. fixed pressure).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,216 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Thank you @wassie , bought the one of calor today to give it a go, will hopefully get some weather to try it out at the weekend!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    Good stuff. Tip - If you are going to use the same hose as supplied in the box, make sure its long enough to reach the cylinder valve before swapping regs over as its a fairly tall bottle. My guess is it should be ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,216 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Cheers, I was wondering myself if that would be a problem so I bought the one with 2m of hose. I know the manual says 1.5m but I can always cut it if needed. I think the distance up from the bbq to the tall canister probably isn't too much more than the distance down to the patio gas one, but I should have enough hose for whatever it is.

    I also bought the best rated quick release fittings I could find on Amazon, the ones on calor website were out of stock. We'll see what they are like cause they would be useful if they work ok.

    https://amzn.eu/d/0bYAxAbP

    Cooked chicken thighs on it over the weekend using the patio gas cannister we have for the pizza oven. Very handy to light up and get started compared to charcoal. I definitely need a bit of practise with it though as it's completely different than cooking with the weber kettle where there is a direct and indirect side.

    I could definitely see it being useful for quick mid-week BBQ, and also if we've a few people over the kettle got full pretty quickly so it will help take the pressure off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,100 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    The size of the connection on UK bottles is different to Irish ones.

    I'd be avoiding Amazon.

    On connectors, can the 11kg bottle be used with the correct connector? We use bottle gas for cooking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,228 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    How to get the smokiness in Weber gas bbq ? Any accessories ?>



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,216 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    DIY (or buy) a smoke box and some wood chips I would think is the best bet

    https://www.weber.com/US/en/grill-skills/mastering-smoke/smoker-setup/smoking-on-a-gas-grill/weber-34484.html

    Yeah for the calor.ie regulator in the end. They didn't have the quick release in stock though.

    My setup will eventually be

    Regulator → female quick release → male quick release → bbq

    And gave a different connection made up with male quick release → pizza oven

    One of the issues with the big cannisters is you can't easily remove the regulator to store the BBQ. The quick release allows us to leave the regulator screwed on while disconnecting the device. Adding one to the pizza oven means we can swap them in and out fairly easily. We'll be shutting the valve off on the tank when not in use

    This is all the theory, I guess we'll find out soon enough how it works out. Will definitely be doing a lot of checking for leaks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    Thats a great job - I've never seen those couplers before!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    I've a question in relation to regulators.

    I just bought the Q2000 and I wanted to swap the propane regulator for a butane one so I don't have to have two different gas bottles at home. The hob in the kitchen is run from a Butane bottle, I'd prefer to have two of the same type instead of having one of each.

    I was planning to take the regulator off an old bbq and swap it with the one on the Q2000. Any reason I shouldn't do that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    No issue at all - provided its a decent regulator in good working order. Just test it for leaks using soapy water.

    The user guide even has instructions on how to fit different regulators to the BBQ as its designed to run on LPG - which can be either propane or butane.

    See my post here in another thread on this very topic: Link here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    If only I hadn't butchered the hose trying to get the other regulator off the old bbq 🤦‍♂️



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Comerman


    You can buy hose in woodies

    https://www.woodies.ie/gas-fittings-1-2m-length-orange-rubber-gas-hose-bs3212-336098?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw4ri0BhAvEiwA8oo6F9mCIHwh0-iuxohpTuhP3jHhDwXer-K8Wxh95BBZODbQInYDmIqPBBoC6HsQAvD_BwE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    If the old hose was fairly old or weathered, they stiffen up and are liable to splitting, so a new hose is cheap insurance!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭thejaguar


    New bbq for €100~ plus advice on replacing the regulator. Not to mention the various other bits of info and advice over the years.

    I do love this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,216 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Successfully connected up to the 34kg cannister (not sure why I thought it was 47kg) with the linked regulator and quick connectors.

    All went to plan, although it was quite tough to get the hose on the regulator but eventually got it and no sign of any leaks.

    Also added the quick connectors to the patio gas regulator and the ooni so can chop and change between them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭wassie


    All went to plan, although it was quite tough to get the hose on the regulator but eventually got it and no sign of any leaks.

    Tip for next time - soak the end of the hose in boiling hot water - it softens the rubber and allows a fitting to slide in much easier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,216 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    We were even did this and it was still tough! The hose from the weber was ok, the hose from the ooni was very easy, but the new one from calor was by far the hardest. Eventually got it between using the boiling water a few times and just keeping at it.

    We had a camping stove that needed a regulator so we said we'd throw on a quick release on his too. this was the hardest thing to get the hose on cause it just had a right angle connector coming out the back so the unit itself was kind of in the way of getting a good grip to push it on. Someone on YouTube recommend a small bit of wd40 on the connector , and in fairness it worked very well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭geographica


    anyone know the price of an 11kg patio gas (grey) replacement?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Hi All

    Looking to get a 4+ burner gas BBQ, the Webers are coming in at +1K so they're out of my price range. I'm looking at maybe a Sahara or an Outback - any able to recommend one over the other?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭davegilly


    Ignore - I've reposted on Charcoal thread !

    Post edited by davegilly on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,230 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Are you sure you need 4 burners?

    Is it far from the kitchen? Do you need those side burners?

    My Broilking is just 2 burners and has loads of effective cooking area.



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