Getting out of electric

Are they sales reps or would they just be using the cars for their own purposes?

I'm struggling to get last 2 guys in company cars to go EV here, they won't be getting another ICE though that's for sure.

Of the 6 or 7 that have them, none of us are going back to ICE. One guy is driving EV to Portugal and 3 of us, myself included, have added a second EV to our household.

The only downside I can see at the minute is trading them in, but we are all on our first EVs and probably just keeping them if numbers are ridiculous in the usual 3 to 4 year time frame.

The cars are

ID4 x 2

ID5 X 2

Enyaq

Cupra Born

Audi Etron 55

Tesla model Y

Tesla model 3

All of us travel between sites in dublin, cork, Limerick and Northern Ireland.

Work grand for us.

Yeah, this is pretty much across the board. There's a Jan 23 Polestar 2 on the bargains thread for €34k and I'm fairly sure that would have been close to €60k back then. The very same spec car is for sale brand new from Polestar for €46.5k right now. The new model is €45.5k. Whoever sold or traded that car went away limping heavily.

I suspect a lot of people don't know about the available charging networks and might think Ecars is the only one

Certainly some of Ecars sites can be justifiably disappointing

There's a serious lack of signage and awareness around charging points, particularly on long routes. Think of how often you see a sign for a town with a fuel station listed as local services, but not EV chargers

That plus the kick in the balls on depreciation would certainly explain some of the bitterness

ID4 and EQB to Tiguan and Q5, what do all of these have in common? A "good German badge". That attracts certain types of buyers for whom image and appearing successful are important. Now take a situation where family, friends and acquaintances are slagging the owner off about battery fires or milk floats etc.- someone concerned with their image is going to take that badly. Of course they'll never admit that insecurity and fear of ridicule is the reason for going back to ICE.

Poor buyer decision mixed with technofobia.

My neighbour buys a diesel car every 3 years. He does about 3k a year just tootling to the shops.

People listen to others rather than thinking for themselves

i have heard this kind of story mainly about range, so many times.

what i concluded is that like most things, many people are afraid of change, and many are incapable of change.

The majority of people, do not go on 500 km journeys on a frequent basis, sure, some do, but the majority do not, so for the majority, home charging is more than sufficient, most of the time.

Many People hone in on rare exceptions, the long journey all the time, and the worst complainers are those who never go anywhere, it is more of a perceived but totally unfounded bias.

More choice for us who are looking to buy an ev.

I reckon you've kind of nailed it, demand was so much higher than supply the last few years that a lot of owners probably thought they'd make back what they spent on an EV

It probably didn't help that the garages were keeping that lie going. I remember some ID.4 owners getting calls offering to buy back 1 year old cars for what the owner paid because they had a buyer looking

Well reality certainly kicked in recently, so those guys are probably quite bitter about the hit they took versus what they'd expected

They probably took such a low trade in they were practically cutting their owns throats 😉

(Love the username btw, only got it recently and been laughing since 😂)

Thanks. Love how you shoehorned my user name in there. Made me chuckle.

@MrMusician18 should ask them how good a trade in they got. 😂

I have to say the FUD stuff is getting in on people. I wanted a leaf when they first came out in 2012 so enthusiastic about the technology from the start but even I feel it at times.
rented an EV for holiday this year and I’m a bit annoyed about the extra hassle even though it’s nothing really. Hope the tide changes soon.

You say both had home charging. That being the case I’d assume that the guy doing 60km per day was doing that trip 5 days per week. Add on 100km for evening and weekends. He would never have to use public charging, unless he was on a long trip. So reverting makes no sense, particularly if he was on a good night rate.

Car might not support high speed charging. OP specifically mentioned 50kWh chargers.